Buddys blood work

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Marci and Buddy

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total billirubin 0.1 normal
calcium , sodium , potassium ----all normal
phosphorus--normal 3.7
cholestoral 301 ***high
hemoglobin 7.7 LOW (9-15.9)
hematocrit low 24
Craetinine 2.4
cholesterol 301 HIGH
wbc 20 (3.5-16)
absolute neutrophils 13266 (2500-8500)
absolute esoinophils 1608 (0-1000)
specififc gravity 1.025 ( normal) (100-1200)
urea nitrogen 64 (14-36)
BUN 60
potassium 5.7 (3.4-5.6)
wBC20 (3-16)
amylase 1488
Bg 420
CAN ANYONE TELL ME WHAT THIS MEANS? ohmygod_smile
Vet said no infection present. possible cancer.
no ill symptoms presently but gurgling stomach and harder to regulate.
thanks!
 
Well, there are a whole lot of other blood markers that are not in this panel - like RBC's hemoglobin, hematocrit, potassium, sodium, chloride, bilirubin, enzymes (ALT, AST, ALK Phosphatase, lipase), calcium, phosphorous...

With the elevated WBC, absolute neutophis and eosinophils I don't know how the vet can say "no infection".

From Cami's first blood panel (very comprehensive) it was clear that her liver and kidneys were struggling to either function normally or were working overdrive to clear something - such as the diffuse inflammation/bacterial infection that seems to have been the case. Yes, it is hard to differentiate lymphoma from inflammation/infection from blood work and ultra sound which is why they will say it could be either. Only time will tell. Infection will clear with ABs, but lymphoma will not.

Did they do any xray or ultrasound?

Chronic issues like IBD, p-titis, and so on cause a lot of normal processes to become unbalanced. Unfortunately, most of our cats lack a lot of basic nutrition from commercial diets making it harder from them to fight off stuff. Aging, of course, also makes things harder for them to fight off.

The high BUN and the high BUN/Creatinine ratio indicate dehydration and/or kidney insufficiency. It is possible to be getting subQ fluids and still be dehydrated to a degree. Cami had elevated kidney values (BUN & Creatinine) for months while getting fluids. In fact, I think she stopped needing fluids when her values dropped into the normal range. Diabetes, over time, can cause kidney damage and high B&C, although more so in humans, I think. Do you add a little water to Buddy's food?

If I were you, I would ignore that "possible cancer" comment for now. As you posted on the other thread, you would not aggressively treat cancer. So try to manage the other issues. Maybe increase his fluids? I was giving Cami 75ml/day. Does Buddy have any heart disease? Ask the vet if that amount of fluids is ok - should be if no heart disease. He may need a broad spectrum AB, such as Baytril. That is what Cami was on for over two months, and then put back on when her kidney values were still higher after a month. Bacterial infection in the kidneys will cause kidney insufficiency. She has been off it again for 3 months now.

And, I believe the vet means lymphoma, when s/he says "cancer". Do know that lymphoma can be slowly progressing and will usually respond to steroids for a while. Unlike carcinomas, lymphomas can shrink with the use of steroids. I had a cat with nasal lymphoma and we managed her for 9 months on bi-weekly depomedrol shots. Yes, steroids are contraindicated for diabetics, but you are not expecting a cure, just a palliative effect so he is comfortable for as long as possible. The diabetes can be worked around that with dose adjustments as necessary.
 
Oh, meant to add re gurgling stomach: that could mean slower peristaltic movement which can happen for a variety of reasons, including chronic inflammation and neuropathy. Cami is on a med that helps with colon contractions called cisipride. It is for mega colon issues, so I would not suggest it if Buddy has no pooping issues, is going regularly, and the stool looks normal. An xray would show if he has a lot of gas in his intestines (common with noises like this)

The Mercola products will probably help with the gurgling.
 
Sheila- thanks so much for your comprehensive reply -have not been able to get back here till now.
I did call the vet and ask how she can say "no infection" with th ehigh WBC and other values. She said she will ask the
lab to run another test on his urine/ bloodwork. i asked her for Baytrill but she does not want to give him anythingv
to lower his immune unless she knows its an infection.
I do not have the confidence in any vet i have met in past 5 years, as much as i do for some of those on this board ,
which is why i post here with any changes. I am quite sure no vet could have helped CAmi the way you have.
As for bUddy, i did not get an xray or US, because vet said if it is cancer, i would not do anything anyway,
being thta he is almost 18..do you still think i should get one?
As for the gurgling--it's almost completely stopped. i've been giving him Cerenia, even tho" he's not vomiting.
Past few dys have been good (anti-jinx)
He hasnt ever had any colon issues. Vet said not to increase Subq fliuds dur to his heart murmur. others on this board said
water is sub Q and wont interfere with heart. not sure about that.
i will now add some more bloodwork values which you said were missing and if you see anything, please let m e k now.
thanks for all your help.
 
Sorry, Marci. I thought I checked back here for a reply but must have missed it.

How is Buddy doing?

How much subQ does he get? What you are doing is probably good "maintenance". I don't think an ultrasound is necessary, was just curious if they did one (or an xray) looking for any "cancer" mass.

Another thought, if he is still having appetite or digestive issue is to try Pepcid (regular, single ingredient kind) at 1/4 tablet per day about 20 mins before a meal.

I know what you mean about vets and "iffy" suggestions - if they don't specialize in something they just go by basic, conservative guidelines. I can't fault that. Human GPs would send us to a specialist in a nanosecond for anything more complex than a regular check-up. I do want to say that I did not bring Cami to where she is now without a vet's guidance. She has been seeing a specialist since March, who I know is excellent and very knowledgeable. That did not, however, stop me from doing my own research and making changes as I thought best (like not giving Metamucil to a cat with mega colon and giving Miralax along with the Rx'd meds). I look at these relationships, me-vets-vet techs-cat, as teams that I participate in more fully than just administering meds. So, that's a long way of saying, ask around about stuff and weigh the general consensus of cat owners who have experience on things like subQs for a heart kitty into the mix. Yes, I think those folks have better experience than the vet does because they deal with it 24/7. Just like all of us do with the diabetes. I KNOW that I know more about FD than even the specialist Cami goes to.
 
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