A cycle is the 12 hours after a shot. We recommend keeping a dose at least 3 or 4 cycles before changing it so you should give 2 u tonight. He's still bouncing from the lower blue numbers yesterday. The nadir (low) number a dose gives is the most important in judging the dose's effectiveness. That 148 yesterday (on your AT meter) is a good number. I wouldn't change the dose yet. Keep the 2 u for a bit longer to see if he settles. Too many dose changes can cause very erratic numbers.
Ok well I did not see this until now I and I gave him 1.5. Should I give him another .5???
No, don't do that. Let's see what AMPS you get. Go back up to 2 u then if BG is similar to today's.
It really is, you're not alone though! It's all app new to me and it's so much information it takes s long time to learn. The most important thing is your trying, which is way more than most people do.This is all just so confusing... Just all of it
Yes, VERY confusing! The learning curve is steep but you'll get there.This is all just so confusing... Just all of it
Why not try eyeballing 1.75 u? Or you can give 2 u again.
I'm in Canada, eastern time, so you're an hour earlier than I am.
Ok cool. I will keep you posted shortly. I just want to get this right. I feel like with him all over the place I am failing.
No, you're not failing. This is a very hard thing to figure out. I've been at it over 2 years and still get stumped ...
Give 2 u again today. Can you test between +4 and +6 to see what the dose does?
You could try eyeballing 2.25 u tomorrow AM. Don’t jump up to 2.5 u.
Here's the basic testing routine (not sure if I gave it to you before):
Your pet meter reads higher at high BG than a human meter would so high can be a black. It’s Vetsulin’s nature to drop BG fast and fairly low and that can set the stage for a rebound by PS time. It’s possible you’re getting less than 12 hour duration with Vetsulin so it poops out before PS time. And finally the dose might be a bit too low right now. Any/all of those things can be the cause.
Thats great you're trying to get him onto wet food. Jai (my furry) was pretty high too (and on Alphatrak - ~450 pre-dose) until we switched her completely over to wet food. Now she's much lower pre-dose (still not perfect, but I like that she's not in red all the time). The dry food is irresistible to them - we had to just completely get rid of it and ride out begs for a few days before Jai moved on. We also started with an Alphatrak2 (still have it for spot checks) but the human meter is much more wallet friendly. I was finding the Alphatrak would read 100+ higher than human meters, so curves from pinks to blues are a great starting point (struggled with wanted to always have jai hit green). Also, have you tried calibrating your alphatrak2? It has control solution that you can use to make sure it is reading within a standard range.
First, thats a really great response. Second, I agree the difference is a little weird. My plan is to spot check if Jai is high/low on the Alphatrak2 (the "take action" number is a little lower with human meters) and use human mainly for keeping track of her response trend. Luckily, she only bounced for the first few days and then starting coming from from red numbers, so I felt more comfortable making the switch. If she hadn't I'd still have been using the ATK2.
I compared meters maybe 10-15 times while I had both strips. I got anywhere from 10-30 difference with the exception of one that was off by 80. I think that one was just a fluke because the rest were really close. The 2 meters use a different amount of blood too and it took some getting used to getting the right size drops.
I get it. I was firm in my choice to use a pet meter in the beginning.
he was fighting me) and I should just wait a few more cycles?
I see you're using both SS the last few days. Going by the human meter data I'd say you could try 2.5 u today. Even the last two days of AT data suggest that.Booger was in the 2 and 3 hundreds today at nadir. Is that a sign that he is needing to now go from 2.25 units to 2.5 or should I do a glucose curve in the morning? Or could this just be a reaction to him not getting his insulin the night before (didn't go in
I worry you might actually not get the most accurate info this way. If you’re mostly following with the relion, then checking when you assume nadir is, you might actually miss it. The relion is going to always give you a lower reading so the AT reading being higher might actually make it harder to see the pattern. If you pick one you’ll be able to follow one consistent pattern through the cycle without the odd number tossed in the middle.
I understand. I am just concerned with the relion numbers being so off. I ordered some freestyle strips and they should be here in a few days. Hopefully will be able to use those and get a somewhat accurate reading. More so than what I am getting with the relion.
The thing with the numbers is they aren’t exactly off, they’re just different. His glucose is just registered on a slightly different scale, but I wouldn’t call it off exactly. The concern I have is not being able to see the whole correct pattern when you mix meters. So- 3/23 you have amps 524, +4 182, +5 on AT +224 then back to relion for +7 202. See how you lose the “smiley face curve” when you throw in the AT number in the middle? What would your line have looked like if you stayed with the relion for the whole thing? What would the percentage drop be from amps- nadir? Same with after pm shot. That one AT at +5 375 then relion +8 366 so here you can’t see his lowest point either. The AT reads high so it sort of jumbles up the info and hides the pattern. I’m really confused trying to follow it and it really makes me worry for you trying to maintain it and maybe missing something.