Blood in tiny drops of urine outside of litter

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Missy's Mum

Missy's Mum

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Missy is in remission and no longer on insulin. I
monitor food intake and add lots of water to her canned food bc that is her only way of drinking enough. Chose cans from the suggested list linked through this forum. I have been overwhelmed and have not taken her to vet for a long time. Hard time testing her blood recently and gave up. My scale broke but She seemed to be ok when I last weighed her. She seemed ok.
Now when I was planning to take her to the vet, she suddenly got sick. I am freaking out. I can't afford high bills. I will be waiting at the low cost vet mobile tomorrow in Manhattan. I am so scared. I caught her trying to pee outside of the litter. She was moaning earlier when i quickly put her in the litter. She has made drops of blood pee all around the home. She was jumping as usual. She went in and out of litter. Now she is quiet on my table. So worried. I took sample of pee in case it helps. Any advice. Please help
 
Could be a bladder infection, irritation from crystals or a bladder stone, or interstitial cystitis (not bacterial).

Hang in until morning unless her abdomen is tense and painful (suggests blockage).

Frequent attempts to urinate with little output support all of these diagnoses. A culture and sensitivity to determine if bacteria are present and if so, what will treat them is the most helpful. An x-ray to look for stones would be helpful if she is actually blocked.
 
how much do those type of procedures run and how long do they generally take? She is usually aggressive at the vet. Can you give me any more info on what to expect from those procedures, time, cost, recovery?
When I put my hand at her belly she arches up.
 
They might need to sedate her, especially for an x-ray
Typically, a cystocentesis is done where a needle withdraws urine from the bladder. Then it is incubated to see what it grows, if anything, and what kills it.

I have no idea of costs; that varies with vet and location.

Empirical treatment - treating without testing based on the most common diagnosis of bacterial infection - is an option if she isn't painful.
 
How long do those results usually take? How long does sedation usually take? From when they give it until procedure is done and kitty can go home?
I am so freaked out by cost. In the hundreds or could this run higher? Last time she was sick the cost was insanely high. I don't think I ever did X-ray.
 
Should she be fed her regular night feed with water amount as usual or would that make it worse?
She is not demanding food as usual, but coming when she smells me taking out my food. Usually she is very vocal and demanding food.
 
Feed her tonight, then nothing until the vet, in case then do need to sedate and you decide to do it.
You'll have to ask the mobile vet what they want to do and decide then.
 
Thanks so much. I fed her. Now she is again in and out of the litter.

I hope I can get some sleep. It's hard to relax when I worry about her discomfort. It's a relief to know that at least I have someone who cares guiding me through this. I really am grateful.
 
Hang in. It'll be along night.

I'll check back in the morning; I'm crashing now.
 
Missy had her usual snack at 4 am. I did not feed her at 9 as usual. Now it's 11 and they say 5 hour wait till my turn. It's never clear how long this takes bc at low cost place just wait all day. She may need a shot to sedate her. How long before that can I feed her? She is not asking for food. I usually give a bigger feed around 9am. So confused. I am only hearing from assistant. Not sure how much she understands diabetes.
 
No recent moaning. Can't tell if she is still peeing blood bc she is in the carrier. Waiting on line at vet still. Hoping it will be ok. She usually gets aggressive at the vet. They said she will likely be sedated. I fed her 11.30 bc they said 2-3 hours before is ok. Praying.
 
Sounds like she may have a bladder infection or one of the other things that BJM has mentioned. We will keep our fingers crossed that it's only an infection as that could be just an antibiotic and urinalysis to test for it. Please don't freak out yet. I know easier said than done but, keep breathing and remember that assistants don't always know what the vet will do or not do. Chances are, they will do a urinalysis right there and then to check for infection then, decide if further tests are needed. Even if they have to sedate her, (may not be necessary), it will be fine. Hang in there and remember to BREATHE. :) We are all hoping for you and with you. Sending you good energies for good results. HUGS :bighug:
 
That is totally understandable at not getting sleep. I think we've all been there many times for many reasons. It's hard because they can't tell us what is going on or how they feel so that we can get a better picture of what might be happening. BUT...having said all of that...try hard to just breathe, and see what the vet has to say and don't let your imagination go wild as most of us can do. (We should be writing novels LOL).

Remember too that sometimes the most frightening symptoms turn out to be totally not what we think and easily treated. We are all praying, thinking about you 2 and sending good energies and thoughts. You're certainly being covered in that arena as well. And, you're doing absolutely ALL that you CAN do right now so, take peace in that thought, please. You may be surprised to find out that it's not as bad as you are fearing.

Also remember that sometimes, a little information is good but, too much can be a royal nightmare! LOL :bighug: HUGS as we all wait with you.
 
Just got home. The vet said just give clavamox liquid with meals 2x day for seven days and if after 4 days no change then know it's not working and will need to come for sedation, X-ray and urine test. Only if I have to do that I may need to wait a few extra days to get the more experienced vet. I was cautioned by the assistant that the other vet just received a license and not as experienced. So I pray the antibiotics work well and no more trouble.
I forgot to ask how they get UTI and what I can do to prevent it. Are diabetics more prone to getting this?

I think I need to cut a little back on her food so that she loses a little weight. She is creeping closer to overweight. I forgot the max a three year old can weigh, to prevent diabetes from flaring up again.
 
Due to higher glucose levels, it is easier for diabetics to get all kinds of infections, as the glucose feeds the bacteria.
Bacteria are everywhere in the world; normally, our bodies can protect us against them. When an immune problem, such as diabetes, is present, it is more difficult to fight overgrowth/infection off.
 
The vet said just give clavamox liquid with meals 2x day for seven days and if after 4 days no change then know it's not working and will need to come for sedation, X-ray and urine test. Only if I have to do that I may need to wait a few extra days to get the more experienced vet. I was cautioned by the assistant that the other vet just received a license and not as experienced. So I pray the antibiotics work well and no more trouble.
I forgot to ask how they get UTI and what I can do to prevent it. Are diabetics more prone to getting this?

I think I need to cut a little back on her food so that she loses a little weight. She is creeping closer to overweight. I forgot the max a three year old can weigh, to prevent diabetes from flaring up again.
 
Ok, so I'm sure you have had a massive headache and a crash but, it's sounding like perhaps, they did a urine "dip-stick" test like they do in humans with UTI's??? If that's the case then, hopefully, it's just a UTI and the Clavamox will clear it up. I'm sure that you'll be keeping an eye on litter activity and at least for now, there's some treatment going on. And, honestly, while the vet may be just fresh out of school with not much experience, some of the best advice that I've had has come from a young, new vet who has all of the text book stuff in their minds still and haven't become "complacent" so, that *might* be a good thing!
Still sending you good energy, thoughts and prayers that this IS "the answer"!!! :) :bighug:
 
Thanks for the links. It sounds like a simple thing I could use. Is it ok to use while giving medicine or best to wait till after?

The vet I saw was actually the more expedited one. If I have to go back in a week if the medicine doesn't help, then I may get new one.
The vet I saw gave medicine based on my description without any testing. He said he would do that first and if testing is needed then she would have to be sedated bc she was hissing aggressively.
It's weird, on Thursday night missy was very uncomfortable. I have not seen any pee outside the litter since then. She is using the litter. I did notice they were a little smaller then usuall and more small clumps in the litter. I continuously monitored the clumps and tried to see if urine in any of them. Hard to see if dots of red. I think yesterday she had some red bits but don't think she did today. Does it clear up so quick? I hope I am just lucky. She is acting her usual self.
 
She weighs 11.4 now and is 3 years old. I am cutting her portion down and trying to encourage her to play more. I think last time I was told between 9 1/2 to 10 1/2 lb is good weight. Is that all ages? Is only eating fish or liver chicken classic pate from friskies enough variety for her. I had to choose the cheapest options on the diabetes recommended list.
 
It's possible the antibiotics are working and she's starting to feel better already. I think it would be fine to use the D-Mannose in addition to the medication. As far as weight, Mitz maintained the same weight for most of her adult life until shortly before her diagnosis. And I think it's fine to alternate between the 2 flavors of Friskies.
 
It's odd though because Friday before even getting to the vet she seemed to be better. Her pad in the litter had no pee at all, and we were out all day. Either way I am happy she seems to be doing well.
 
Glad to hear that Missy's more comfortable. Be sure to keep up her fluids - helps to flush out the urinary tract.
 
So sorry to hear that. I know my vet is not the best but it's all I can afford for now. I am hoping it will get me through. I found more help through this forum then the vet. So I try to balance both.
 
Fingers and paws crossed in the Shire that you'll both get through OK. Keep monitoring Missy's urine output. Maybe put some kitchen paper underneath the litter in her tray. It might help you to better identify whether she is still passing any blood. If funds permit, try getting some non-absorbent litter and some urinalysis test strips (e.g. Bayer Multistix or similar). They're human test strips but most of the tests work for cats, too. If there's any blood in the urine, it will be detected on the urinalysis strip.

I'm glad you found this forum. There are some extremely knowledgeable people here. I have learned so much since I joined last year. Saoirse would not have done anything like as well without the help and support we have received here.
 
Back at the vet :(. Besides for a 1/2 day lapse in medication while I had to wait to get a refill, things seemed to be ok. Pee was a solid piece. Last night she had tiny pees again in the litter and she was sitting there a while before she squeezed drop out. Then she peed again outside litter and saw one dot red in it. It was not as bad as last time but this might be something ongoing. She wasn't demanding food as usual before bed but ate when fed.

Didn't want to take chances. Traveled 1 and half hours to the low cost vet. Tight budget so this is all I can afford. I didn't know how to do test strip when her litter is so full. Too late to go back in time.
Now I get to wait all over again. Apparently it's the new vet today. Fresh out of college and the intake person does not think he is as knowledgable as the old one. I hope he knows what to do with my diabetic in remission.

Her weight is 11.4 and she is about 3 years old now. Her sugar was 65 last week. So that seems ok for now. Any info I should be mindful of to point out to vet who may not know much about diabetics.
 
Sorry to hear Missy's is still having trouble! With urinary tract issues, I think it's really important that they do what's called a culture and sensitivity test so they can first of all see if the problem is bacterial, and second to identify the bacteria so they know the best antibiotic. Last time Mitz had to have one done, the results took a couple of days, so Missy may need a pain reliever while you're waiting. Best of luck with the new vet!
 
How do I make a new post? I can't find how I did this. I only see conversations but not start new message. Where is that?
 
On a desktop browser, see the Post New Thread button. It's just under the Alert notification thingummywossname.

I have trouble finding it, too! :rolleyes: I wish it was somewhere on the left hand side of the screen.

Great picture of Missy, btw. :)
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Yes, what Aine said. You should see it at the top right of the screen once you click on the forum you want (for instance, the main feline health forum).
 
Missy's Mum said:
Back at the vet :(. Besides for a 1/2 day lapse in medication while I had to wait to get a refill, things seemed to be ok.
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I was a bit distracted earlier. Can you fill us in on what happened during the previous vet visit, please. What was the diagnosis? What meds were prescribed?
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Last time I was given clavamox for UTI based on my description of small pee with blood outside the litter.

This time she was sedated and they took urinalysis, culture and blood test for infection and sugar, but they didn't do the fructosamine because my glucometer was 65 last week so she seems to still be at the normal range.

In three days hope to get results. For now I have to continue 1cc clavamox until results show need for possibly stronger medicine. Vitals were checked and are all good. I we told to keep her weight between 9-12. She is 11.4

I now feed 1/8 can friskies pate (fish/liver chicken) at 5 scheduled intervals. That is 1/4 less than what she used to get because I was worried that her weight was getting too high. She used to weigh 10. When we leave for the day, I increase portion size and only 4 feed times.

I gave lots of info, so you can point out if I am doing something wrong.

Once she is well then I need to go for shots. Was told had to do that yearly. I did not realize that she was behind in those.

Had no energy to respond yesterday. 2 hour trip home with messed up transportation. Missy was hissing and trying to attack through the carrier. She calmed down once out, home with her litter and food. Sedation is awful. She kept sliding off high surfaces. This is what puts me off vet trips.
 
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