? Angel throwing up more or less once a day

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Angel had his bloods done a couple of weeks ago and apart from the high bg, everything else was fine. Since a few days BEFORE he started back on the insulin he's been throwing up once nearly every day. He seems fine in himself. I've noticed there are some cat hairs in his vomit (lovely) he has always had a problem with over grooming so much so that his belly is bald, he grooms himself, the 3 young cats, me, and my boyfriend. He's been doing it more than usual lately and I'm assuming he's ingesting too much cat hair, I'm going to make sure all 4 get a good brushing every day, but could there b another reason? I'll call the vet monday anyway.
 
He really likes to keep things tidy! :cat:

Many people trim the hair for this reason.... I am a groomer and I trim many short hair cats into a shorter haired cat and it helps very much.
I "shave" my own and he loves it and no pukis.
If you are not wanting to change the look you can try just shaving the underneath (the "T" ) under armpits down the belly-
If you go to a groomer I would ask them to use a number 10 blade as it is safer than a 7F for this area.
I personally have my cat parents stay and it should only take 20 minutes or less-:bighug:
(some people say vaseline helps slide the hair out too)
 
He was OTJ for 2 years before this? I sounds to me like the pukeys and recent need for insulin might be linked. He could be feeling more yucky because his BG isn't as controlled as it has been... or he could have another health issue that is causing the higher BGs. Or maybe he just caught a bug or is over-grooming.. I would call and see if there is anything he wasn't tested for that might be relevant, and he could probably use some nausea meds. It is frustrating when these issues show up right after you get the all-clear from bloodwork! :banghead: What does the vomit look like? Is it actual food or fluids?
 
How long after feeding is Angel throwing up?
How much is thrown up relative to how much Angel ate?
How digested does the food look?
 
hi Larry and everyone,
Angel has occasionally had episodes where he's a bit vommy for a few days, I think if he wasn't diabetic I wouldn't be worried. I am pretty sure like I said it's over grooming, and maybe a bit of bolting food as he seems to want it 2 hours before testing and I make him wait. This morning the 2 black and white monsters were practically fighting to get groomed by him. There doesn't seem to be a pattern, sometimes just after he's eaten, sometimes not, it's pretty much undigested and I've always noticed cat hair.

No throwing up yet today so fingers crossed...
 
Does he get a midnight snack? That might help with the bolting of food. My cat who is not diabetic, bolts her food, and if I don't smoosh the food down real flat onto a plate so she eats slower, she does the old scarf and barf.
 
At the moment I'm giving him insulin at 12 am and 12 pm, so I feed him just before then. My partner gets up around 6 at the latest and usually feeds the cats then. I try to feed around the nadir and just before shooting. x
 
Update! I wondered if the reason he was overgrooming more was fleas, as he has a slight allergy. I checked the gang for fleas, no sign. However I dosed them all and he's back to his usual overgrooming not manic, and no more vommy puddles :)
 
There was a big problem with winter fleas last year, Cassandra. It has been quite mild thus far this year, too, so wise to be vigilant.


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Good call! My cat is also allergic to fleas. Found out after a puppy brought them in years ago, she was ripping her hair out on her back but we couldn't see any fleas. The vet told me that with cats who are allergic, you often won't see them as they are more vigilant in getting at them, but one bite can be really bothersome.
 
I would talk to the vet about the vomiting if it's still regular or almost daily. That was the symptoms my civie showed for his IBD. The gut walls were thickened enough that he couldn't pass the hairballs. For a while I was playing the game of "spot the daily hairball". He's also a big fan of grooming, loves giving beans face washes.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
The gut walls were thickened enough that he couldn't pass the hairballs.
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Very useful to know, Wendy. I'm worried that Lúnasa may be showing signs of IBD. She has been bringing up frequent hairballs. She needs a dental and the vet is going to do an abdominal ultrasound at the same time. Useful to hear about what to look out for in the results.


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@Critter Mom - Sorry you might be going through this too. Here's an article discussing chronic vomiting in cats. Good plan on the abdominal ultrasound. I was lucky with my civie that the clinic uses a travelling ultrasound vet and I got to be there with him while he had the U/S. With proper meds and figuring out what proteins he couldn't handle, he hardly ever vomits anymore.
 
@Wendy&Neko - That made for quite worrying reading, Wendy. My little Noodlekins is somewhat polyphagic, has been having problems with vomiting and iffy stools/borderline diarrhoea plus she has been losing weight in spite of getting more food than she should be eating for a cat of her size and activity level. I've asked the vet about potentially giving her a short course of steroids. She has had a full course of B12 injections but they haven't done much to help. I had some blood work done for her in the last few weeks. Her food sensitivity panel only showed a mild positive for beef (but I know from empirical observation that duck seems to disagree with her) and she tested negative for pancreatitis.

What meds did you find helpful, Wendy?


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Sorry to worry you, but rather nip this in the bud while you can. Looks like she might not be able to absorb all her nutrients if she's losing weight. You might want to check out http://www.ibdkitties.net/
For meds, civie is on prednisilone, Neko is on budesonide (she also has IBD) because budesonide is easier on the diabetes and her heart. Probiotics can also help the digestion, some people use digestive enzymes. Good topics for discussion with your vet.
 
@Wendy&Neko -

Thanks for the info, Wendy, especially the steer on the different steroids. I'm trying to sort this problem as soon as I can and I have been looking at the info on ibdkitties.net. Lúnasa definitely has nutrient absorption problems.

The problems started when Sheba Fine Flakes Poultry in Jelly (UK) formulation was changed; that's when the polyphagia, vomiting and too-frequent soft, pale poops kicked off. I've managed to get her onto a different brand of food and she's getting a probiotic. Her poops are a bit darker with the change and she's not vomiting as much since (anti-jinx) but her poops are still too soft and too frequent; there is much need for improvement.

Any suggestions on suitable digestive enzymes? Also, how quickly can steroid treatment help and can you share any positive changes to clinical signs which would show that the treatment is starting to work?


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(((Mogs and Wendy)))

Wendy, thanks for the info, I will mention the possibility to the vet but pretty sure it's not ibd as he's not had furballs often, he has no other symptoms and he had full bloods done a couple of weeks ago.

Mogs, I hope Lunasa does not have it, at least you are aware and can mention it to the vet. I still suspect that same food set my Angel off again. It should be law for cat food to list carb percentages.
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Mogs (@Critter Mom ) I'm not adding digestive enzymes to their food, but the civie is getting some as part of his raw food premix EZComplete. For both cats, clinical signs (hairball, foamy vomit) went away within a day or two of starting steroids.

Cassandra - other IBD signs besides vomiting (not always hairballs) include diarrhea or constipation. Neko only did the odd foamy or biley vomit, but she also has CKD so that's what I though were causing the foamy vomits. A vet visit is always a good idea with too much vomiting.
 
Fingers crossed, no more voms since last time. I'll still mention it to vet but pretty sure it's because he was grooming everything that moved and if it didn't move he would groom it until it did. As far as I know (since they've all been going outside since the kittens were old enough...the youngest is 2 now) his poos are normal but maybe I will spy on him tomorrow!!
 
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