Amoxi-Tabs Question

Status
Not open for further replies.
Nicole & Baby

Nicole & Baby

Very Active Member
Hi, I have noticed Sadi (non Diabetic) wheezes when she breathes, she kind of sounds congested or something, any ideas?
 
Re: Wheezing

my first thought is asthma. now i don't know a whole lot about it myself but i know many others here do so maybe add "asthma?" to your subject line? first name to come to mind is karen & pearl but like i said i've seen many people here with an asthmatic cat.
 
Re: Wheezing

If she seems to be having trouble breathing, please go to a vet ASAP.

Otherwise consider the following:
- Are there any signs of congestion at her nose or eyes? A virus is a possibility. Take her to the vet in case it is bacterial or she needs medical support.
- Is she crouched like a Sphinx with her head stretched out when she is breathing like this? Some asthmatic cats do that. Often they cough in that position. Take her to the vet.
- If you put your ear to her lungs, do you hear any bubbling or internal wheezing? If yes or unsure, please go to a vet; congested lungs can be heart and/or lung problems. Take her to the vet.
- Has she been playing with any small objects that she might have tried to swallow? She'd probably be in significant distress if the answer was yes, but again, if uncertain, please go to a vet.

It is possible for there to be irritation of vocal cords from infection or some sort of growth.

The only way to know for sure is to go to the vet and go through the necessary diagnostic procedures.
 
Re: Wheezing

Thanks for the replies! Ill make a vet appointment she has kind of done this the past few months, it has to be quiet for me to even hear it. She acts just fine. Ill call them now.
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Your vet should not only listen to her lungs, but also take an x-ray from the top and sides to check her lungs for inflammation signs or trapped air (donuts). If she does get an asthma diagnosis, then you need to try to get her on inhaled steroids and not oral/injected, though I would recommend getting 1 shot of depo medrol steroid since it will last long enough for the flovent inhaler to build up in her lungs and start keeping things under control, and then use the flovent from there on out. Keep us posted!
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Thanks, Kelly! Will do.. I feel bad if this is something.. she just seems a bit congested & I can hear her breathing sometimes & don't hear a sound from Baby so I thought something wasn't right.. I will follow up & let you all know ;-)
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Hi Nicole-
Merlin has mild asthma. His symptoms were different than Sadi's, he used to pant when playing hard. He also coughed sometimes. Coughing sounds like they have a hairball but nothing comes out. The vet checked his heart and it was good. Then he did a chest x-ray and he found the donuts previously mentioned. Now he gets a puff of Flovent twice a day. We use the aerocat with is a tube thingy that you put over his muzzle for about 15 seconds and spray the flovent in it. It's totally doable. No big deal.

Good luck. I hope it's nothing. I'll be looking for your post!
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Thanks everyone, I really appreciate your replies & information. I cannot really explain how it is.. it has been this way for awhile though.. sometimes she just sounds congested.. not wheezy like I first said - I just don't know. I go to Baby & listen & I don't hear Baby breathe, I go to Sadi & hear her breathing & congested - she acts normal, eyes, nose all is well. But now I am on the Internet searching symptoms & have her diagnosed with everything & myself in tears. She is my heart nailbite_smile
I went to Youtube to listen to an asthma cat & she doesn't sound like that. I dunno :YMSIGH:
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Hi Nicole and Sadi,

Oh my gosh, the internet is a wonderful thing, but as you said sometimes it can scare us silly. Try not to get to upset, your a great bean.
I have human asthma (this may or may not be what Sadi has). I stay away from the steroids and this can get a lot of people riled up, even my doctors. There are other meds I use, but even that has gotten complicated, Intal is no longer manufactured in the U.S. so I have to order out of Great Britian. It may not be an option for cats, that said, steroids do serve a purpose and save lives. Asthma is just like diabetes, it can be treated and people/pets can go on to have full lives.

Let your vet get you a diagnosis, and try to not to worry to much until than. What time is your appointment tomorrow? I'll watch for your post when you get back. Fingers and paws crossed :YMHUG: .
 
Re: Asthma Symptoms

Hi, Cheryl - thank you. Sadi's appointment is at 3pm CST, I was able to record her breathing this evening & have it in email or MMS format if anybody could listen.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

Asthma can manifest in different ways for different cats. Some cough, some wheeze, some have open mouth breathing, some only have issues after running around. Not all asthma kitties cough though. My oscar only coughed once in a great while, but mouth breathed and had noisy breathing more than anything. His asthma showed up as "tram lines" or whiter bronchial passages on the x-ray and "donuts" or round pockets of trapped air deep down in the lungs on the x-ray. Also, not all asthma kitties will show something on the x-ray too. So make sure the vet treats the symptoms and not the x-ray necessarily.

The fact that this has been an off and on thing long term makes me think more asthma than uri - though asthma kitties are more prone to getting a uri.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

I wish I could find the video's of an asthma attack in a cat. tom has them. if it is asthma in baby than it is likely mild. an attack looks very much like they are trying to cough up a hair ball but nothing comes up. tom wheezes a congested sound and he also snores a high pitched whistle like sound. all symptoms. but like i said if it's just a wheezie breathing i would think that would be mild asthma or bronchitis. tom needed an x ray to determine.
i will say tom is just fine with his asthma...altho' from the way i talk about his #'s he does'nt seem fine but he is active, and does his daily 5 p's and is purrfectly happy. other than being hungry alllllll the time.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

I listened to your recording and I can hear it, there was no picture. It does sound disconcerting, is sounds like she is straining to exhale or huffing on the exhale. What do you think, you are there so you can tell better? Does she seem distressed? And as other have posted asthma can manifest in different ways in different individuals/pets. I was also told by an ER doctor, when I was there for and asthma attack that no two individuals/pets are the same, meaning symptoms can differ. Panting would be part of it because you are straining to get air.
Is she continuing to make the same sounds now as when you posted earlier today?
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

Hi Nicole,

It is pretty late now. I agree with BMJ, can you get into the vet earlier than 3pm? From the recording Sadi is having trouble breathing. It could be Asthma it could be something else. The vet should be able to get an approriate DX. fingers and paws crossed. cat_pet_icon . Your a good mom.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

I didn't record picture just sound. She was sleeping, this has been going on a few months it is intermittent & I thought normal until today since she has no other symptoms. I will call to see if I can get her in before 3PM, she is not in respiratory distress or I would take her to ER. Thanks everyone, ill update tomorrow.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

Nicole....please do not let them give her a steroid shot if there is any chance that she has a URI....that will compromise her ability to fight the infection. I also have an asthma kitty and I almost lost her due to exactly that scenario....she ended up with pneumonia and it's a miracle that she pulled through. If you must use systemic steroids, I would use pill form rather than a shot until you can get the flovent working for her....once the shot is in, you can't take it out..you can stop the pills if necessary.

Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

Hi, Laurie - thank you for the information - I REALLY appreciate everyone's comments, knowledge, experience & advice. I did call when they opened to see if could see her any sooner, they could.. but only 15mins so we go at 2:45pm CST. I will not allow any steriod shots & update when I return.. thanks again for everything.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

Good Morning Nicole, Baby and Sadi!

Since it has been going on for a few months I think you are safe with the 3pm appointment if you weren't able to get in earlier. Please let us know how you vet appointment goes. Inhaled steroids are easier on the system if steroids are necessary. Try not to worry, we have you in our thoughts. You do a great Job cat_pet_icon
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

nailbite_smile nailbite_smile Nervously headed out the door to the vet soon.. I feel like my stomach is in my throat :YMSIGH:
Will update hopefully by 4pm CST
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

We are home & the vet visit could not have went worse. Sadi was an absolute psychotic cat - growled, hissed, spit & scratched and lunged forward at the vet to the point the vet said that in order to do xrays or even an exam she would need to be brought in & sedated. I was crying & a bit of a mess, she was able to listen to Sadi's lungs & the lungs sounded clear - Sadi was so stressed & panting that she did not hear the breathing I described - except for the recording I did last night on my phone. She said she thought it was either something environmental here in my home that has changed (candles, scents, some sort of allergy etc) or some sort of fungus - but without doing an xray & being able to look down her throat, etc. it was impossible to say exactly what it was. She gave Amoxi Drops (2 pills a day) and mentioned an over the counter allergy pill (2 x's daily) too. She said I broght her in.. in 2009 with the same symptoms except there was sneezing too back then & that is how we treated it.

I am just upset because I wanted a physical exam, I told her I would be scheduling a dental/bloodwork in the future & she said that is when they could do xrays. My fear (because of the Internet) is that this is a growth on her lungs (Cancer) & if it is that.. nothing I can do. I am not upset with Sadi she cannot help how scared she was, just feels like a waste of time. I am not upset with the vet - her & her husband have been my vet for 10 years, but in a way I am disappointed a physical exam was not done, but I understand they cannot risk being attacked either :YMSIGH:

I probably handled it all wrong, but I did what I could & will see how the pills work out. Also, for the dental she said they would "box" her in.. putting her down in an aquarium type thing & they are sedated in a matter of minutes - that does not sound right to me either - I dunno. I am going to sign off for awhile, as I am too upset.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds

As stressed as Sadi was, you really did the best you could and so did the Vet. I don't think you could do any different or better.

Our vet uses the box not only to anesthetise ferals and cats that are too difficult to treat, but also for geriatric cats and cats whose medical conditions make them candidates for a very gentle anesthetization. It is really very gentle.

FWIW, I would concur with your vet in treating the symptoms and seeing if that improves first, then schedule the more extensive stuff later.
 
Re: Breathing Sounds Vet update

sounds quite traumatic so i understand how you're feeling but yes, if kitty is psychotic, you and the vet can only do so much.

i too have had to had the box used on street kitty rescues and it really is not bad. the very first time i ever took Mousie to the vet they had to use it as she had jumped out of a tree, onto asphalt, and appeared to have broken her front leg. we trapped her and got her to the vet but when we opened the trap, she went berserk since she had never encountered a human before, let alone confinement. the vet had the tech go get the box and soon she was being examined and noone was being seriously maimed, not even her :-)

please remember not to overthink all this. you can make your life miserable doing that and cause yourself so much stress. and stress can do nasty stuff to us humans, says the bean who damaged 16 teeth grinding them due to stress. yes, you have to educate yourself but you are not educating yourself to make yourself sick. you are educating yourself so you can better handle whatever it may be and so you can take good care of your kitty.

i know it's natural to do it though. heck, when i was in college taking my psych classes, i diagnosed myself with depression, schizophrenia and tons of other disorders. LOL!! i'll never forget the professor that told us we were going to do it and that it was normal to do so because we would read the symptoms of a disorder and see at least one of them in ourselves. and sure enough she was right. that didn't mean though that we actually had the disease and that is what she told us we had to remember, otherwise we could easily do ourselves in. so educate but don't overthink ok. ((Nicole))
 
Re: Breathing Sounds Vet update

(((OLM))) & (((Cindy)))
Your support & kind words really mean a lot to me, I have calmed down - you are correct - we did what we could & I do not need to be diagnosing her with everything on the Internet - she is acting fine, eating, drinking, litterbox, activity, sleep, etc is fine - it could just be something that needs to be treated with this antibiotic & right now this is all I can do... treat the symptoms of intermittent congestion.. on a good note, her temp was normal & she had gained 6 ounces since our last visit..she could probably lose.. she is now 13.7 lbs! :YMHUG:
 
Re: Breathing Sounds Vet update

OHHHH Nicole,

I'm sorry you and Sadi were so stressed out. You sounds like you are both doing much better now. I thought Cindy's advise was really great! I had to laugh and laugh about the self diagnosed diseases. Sooooo funny :mrgreen:

You guys did do the best you could. Take care. Talk to you later!
 
Hi Nicole,

I don't know about amoxi-tabs, but I just got home and pulled out our L-lysine. The brand we have is Enisyl-F, it is a paste in a metal pump bottle. We bought it at the vet and the stickered instructions from vet indicate 1 pump on food every 12 hours. Lysine 250mg. Each ml contain 250mg of L-lysine in a highly paltable paste.

So from what other have posted is seems to come in various forms paste, sprinkle powder. It is a supplement. Hope this info helps.

Are you feeling better? :dizcat . Your doing great!!
 
Status
Not open for further replies.
Back
Top