Advice for caring for my cat, Oliver, who has diabetes.

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jlw1959

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Hi,
Oliver, my cat, and I are new to this website, and we need your help. Oliver has been having seizures, I don't know what could have triggered them, he takes 3 units of insulin twice a day, every 12 hours. We, my boyfriend and I have been hand feeding him wet Fancy Feast cat food and giving him water with a syringe. This happened on Saturday, he is walking around, but he is running into things, we can't really afford another vet trip, so we were wondering what else we can do at home for him. We want our old Oliver back!! Can you please give us some ideas for other things we can do for him?

Thank you.
jlw1959
 
Hello,

The symptoms you describe could well be those of hypoglycaemia (blood sugar that is way too low). This would mean that he is getting too much insulin!

How long after his insulin shots are the symptoms occurring?

When was he diagnosed? What insulin is he on? If he is a newly diagnosed diabetic then 3 units is a very high starting dose. How did your vet arrive at that dose..? (Sorry, lots of questions, but this IS important!)

FYI - Please read (and print out) this document for info on how to recognise and treat hypos:http://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=15887

Are you willing to learn to test your cat's blood glucose at home? We can help you do that...

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This could be very serious. Are you hometesting? It's very important to test bloodsugar before injecting insulin

Please read this sticky...

viewtopic.php?f=28&t=60261

3 units is a high dose, unless your kitty has other problems.

Let us know where you live maybe there is someone near that can help you with hometesting.

This is a totally manageable disease and Oliver CAN get back to his old self. You have found the best site to help you help Oliver.
Welcome,
jeanne
 
If you give too much insulin, or the cat doesn't eat enough to match the insulin given, the cat may wind up in a hypoglycemic crisis which could be fatal. Before you give the next shot, please discuss with members here who have a lot of experience. Your cat may need a dose reduction to stay safe.

Also, please read this post on Hypoglycemia, print it out and make sure you have the emergency supplies it suggests. You cat's life may depend on it.
 
What kind of insulin is Oliver getting? Is he having these symptoms constantly or intermittently?
Is he on the same diet, eating the same amount of the same food as he was before he started insulin or was his diet changed?

Your story sounds like a cautionary tale for why cats need to be home tested. Three units of any insulin is a very high dose, and it is huge if you switched from a dry diet to low carb canned when he was diagnosed. Three units twice a day seems like the default starting dose for vets who do not advocate hometesting though, so I am not surprised. It's still too high for a starting dose, regardless.

I agree that it sounds a lot like Oliver is hypoglycemic, and at this point, long term hypoglycemic, several days. We think of hypoglycemia as what happens to people when they get shaky because they haven't eaten, but it is way more than that and is a serious condition in a diabetic cat, it can kill and it can permanently damage.

It sounds like he needs his glucose tested before he gets another drop of insulin. For home testing, you just need the least expensive glucose meter you can buy, and a small packet of strips; the meters usually come with a few lancets (or mine did). You can get the Relion meter at WalMart for $9 and the smaller package of strips for $12; lancets, if you have to buy them are about $4.00/100. There are a lot of basic instructions on how and where to "poke" on this site- on the ear, between the vein that runs along the edge of the ear and the edge of the ear, trying not to hit the vein. When I was testing Charlie, who was a big bad Siamese, I sat at the kitchen table with him on my lap, back towards me, front paws on the table. I had everything ready and gave him a freeze dried treat each test, the treat became more important to him than the poke and we got the time down to about a minute. "Wedging" him between the table and me, on my lap like a baby, eliminated the necessity to wrap him like a burrito or do anything else resulting in further trauma. I just did the poke from the back with a folded Kleenex in front of the ear, put the strip in the meter following instructions, held the spot where I'd poked with the folded Kleenex for a few seconds, then let him down. The calmer you are, the easier it will go and the quicker it will become routine.

Your other alternatives at this point are another trip to the vet for a glucose test or, even less optimal, stopping the insulin, watching to see if he acts better, then restarting the insulin at a MUCH lower dose (I'd start with 0.5u), keeping it there for 5-7 days, then trying a small bump up to maybe 1u, watching Oliver's behavior. This is what you'd do with the dose if you home tested and his first reading was low also, but you'd know what you were treating.

It's really nice to have a vet along with you for home testing, I was lucky enough to have one, but many people do not.
 
Here is an update on my cat, Oliver, who has diabetes. He is finally becoming his old self again after having the seizure attacks, he has been through a lot, unfortunatly, he is blind now, or may be partially, I don't know for sure, is this temporary, or permanent? I do know that this tends to happen with people and animals who are diagnosed with diabetes. I have been keeping my vet informed of his progress, I was concerned that he hasn't had a bowel movement yet, but my vet assured me that he should be fine, give him a day or two. Just today, he is finally eating and drinking on his own. He has been walking around the house, I suppose to get his bearings, he follows my voice when I am talking to him, he has also found his litter box, thank goodness for that!! I will keep you posted on his progress, and I think I will look into getting a meter and test strips so I can monitor him from home, right now, the vet said to completely take him off the insulin, give him the Karo syrup until he seems normal, so far, it's working. I want to thank you for all the advice you have been giving me, it has helped a lot!! Oliver and I thank you from the bottom of our hearts!! You helped save his life!!

jlw1959
 
The seizures and blindness could be due to blood sugar going too low. Sometimes the blindness corrects itself if due to an overdose of insulin.
I would not give any more insulin without measuring blood sugar before any shot.
 
Hi
Does any one know if there is something you can do for your cat, at home, for him to have a bowel movement? He hasn't had one in almost 4 days now, he goes to the litter box, I think he is trying, but to no avail. He is peeing ok. I mentioned this to my vet a few days ago, she didn't seem to be concerned with this at the time, but I say, that's just not normal. We were force feeding him when he was too weak, but now that he is stronger, he does drink his water from the bowl, but refuses to eat his wet food from the bowl. I hope his blindness is temporary, although, he is doing quite well with that obstacle also. I found one of his tooth's on the living room carpet, poor thing, maybe it hurts him to eat! I don't know, wish they could talk so that we know how they are feeling!! If anyone has any advice for Oliver and me, we would really appreciate it!! Thank you.

jlw1959
 
I know this is unsolicited advice from a stranger on the Internet, but if I were you, I would get a second opinion today. Four days without a bm with straining can be deadly - it could be a bowel obstruction. He has to eat; diabetes with no food intake can also be very dangerous.

If you start a new thread with your city and state, maybe we have a member who lives near you who could suggest a vet you could see for a second opinion.
 
Once you get through this I would give Oliver some Mirilax to keep him regular.

Sneakers gets 1/8 a teaspoon everyday. She started at BID until they were regular and then dropped to once a day.

As for now- I would find a vet to see about obstruction/constipation. 4 days is a lot of time.
 
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