Advice for a dry food loving free feeder?

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FeelingMN

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My tabby, Levon, grew up on dry food and is a devoted free feeder.

I've been reading up on it, and have Dr Lisa's page bookmarked on my phone for reference, but the rubber meets the road this week -- persnickety-eater Levon must start insulin, I feel I cannot put it off any longer while we dork around with his crazy-making eating habits.

How important is it that we get Levon to eat at "meal times" if I am checking his BG before he gets a dose of insulin? Will he feel terrible if he has very little in his stomach when he gets his insulin?

Is it a bad thing to let him free feed wet food like Fancy Feast?

Any new ideas or suggestions on how to get the little guy to just eat something already? I would expect a diabetic cat to be MORE hungry instead of less. He's certainly more thirsty, and drinking a lot.

Levon is not overweight. Never has been. Now with his poor health, and the UTI, he is actually under what he should be at 9.5 lbs. He would be happy and healthiest at about 10.5 to 12 lbs. He has a history of constipation (he's had to be hospitalized a few times for vomiting and refusing to eat during bouts of constipation).

Diagnosed the last week of June during a regular checkup -- after finding FDMB and catinfo.org, I immediately switched him to wet food. We tried several recommended brands and flavors and had finally hit on Tiki Cat chicken flavors, which he was actually eating. During the 3 weeks of transitioning to wet, he regurgitated a LOT. But we had nearly a week of him eating two 3 oz cans, twice a day...still free feeding.

He had what I thought was a bout of constipation, but ended up diagnosed as a UTI in mid July. He was hospitalized for a few days. He absolutely refused any wet prescription food and the vet put him on D/M dry as that was the only thing he would eat. He came home on D/M dry. After a few days, he refused to eat the D/M dry, nor would he go back to eating the Tiki Cat (other than to lick some of the juice from the can).

I found that he will eat EVO dry and I've been offering wet as well -- Fancy Feast and Tiki Cat, but I am throwing away a lot of wet food and the little sucker refuses to eat at a "meal time". When offered food first thing in the morning, he will acknowledge the dry, lick a bit of wet, and walk away. Checking his bowls over the course of the day, he will pick at both, eating about half of the amount I would like to see him eat. In any 24 hour period he consumes about half of what he should be eating (half of two 3 oz cans - one a.m., one p.m. -- and about 1/4 cup dry EVO).

He was at one time a tuna monster, but hasn't been interested even in his beloved tuna these days. He just does not want to eat.

Any advice or experiences transitioning an incredibly picky eater would be appreciated!
 
Couple ideas. Have you tried adding warm water to the food (Fancy Feast is fine -just pick the pates) so it's like a gravy? Does he really like one of the low carb treats? Lo carb treats You could try sprinkling some of them on top, especially the crumbly kinds like the freeze dried. If he likes tuna, you might add some of the juice (not oil but water based tuna) on top. Also there is a product called FortiFlora. It has the enzymes that make dry food so irrestible. You can sometimes get it from your vet and sometimes on line. You sprinkle it on top of the wet food.

Has he been tested for pancreatitis? That can really throw off their appetite. One of the tell tale signs is they lick their lips.

Yes, he needs to eat but if he will snack during the day, with a slow acting insulin like Lantus, it is not so important that he eat immediately after the shot. As long as he eats something.
 
Thanks, Sue. I am contacting his vet now regarding pancreatitis testing. He's been in several times in the past weeks, and has several tests run on him but I guess I don't recall specifically discussing pancreatitis. He does have a UTI currently, so could still be feeling punky from that. But his low appetite has been an issue for some time now...even before I knew about his diabetes, I was concerned about his decreased appetite.

Do you happen to know where you can get fortiflora without committing to a whole box? Is the vet the best place to procure some if you don't want to wait for shipping? I guess maybe I'll try phoning local PetCo stores...
 
Online it is a whole box. That is unfortunate as it works great for some cats but not at all for others. I have heard people say they got it from the vets at PetSmart or from their own vet, maybe in smaller quantities (?)
 
FeelingMN said:
Do you happen to know where you can get fortiflora without committing to a whole box? Is the vet the best place to procure some if you don't want to wait for shipping? I guess maybe I'll try phoning local PetCo stores...
My vet gave me a few packets of fortiflora for free. I hold onto them like they're gold and only use them when either cat seems to have lost their appetite for some reason. What works best in our house the rest of the time (usually for when they're being finicky) is parmesan cheese on top.

I also agree with Sue that the lack of appetite could be symptomatic of something else going on. Most diabetics have ravenous appetites unless they're not feeling well with an infection or have dental problems or are nauseated. You might want to ask your vet about trying a 1/4 to 1/2 tablet of pepcid AC (famotidine) a half hour before eating if you think nausea might be the culprit.
 
Frustrating. No luck at the PetCo, Chuck & Don's, or PetSmart. I stopped into a vet clinic closer to our house who carries FortiFlora. Though he's been to that vet previously, they insisted on a prescription for FortiFlora from his other vet. His main vet is across town, and frankly, I'm getting sick and tired of driving over there and handing them more of my cash. Sigh...so I ordered a box online, and I guess I'll find some way to give it away if it doesn't work for him.

Thanks for the tips about adding water to the wet to make it more "gravy" consistency. That and some tuna water -- he's eating more already.

Verified with the vet, she doesn't see anything in the bloodwork that indicated pancreatitis to her...she says once he gets over his UTI and is on the insulin, she is sure he'll feel better. I guess we'll see.
 
FortaFlora arrived today. He's very interested...spent a significant amount of time at the food dish. Nice.
 
Watch out for scarf 'n' barf! My civvies so love Forti Flora, they'll make themselves sick!
 
For those dry food addicts and picky eaters, I highly recommend, from personal experience with my Wink, trying all or some of these Transitioning Feline Dry Food Addicts to Canned Food tips from vet Dr. Lisa Pierson from her catinfo.orgwebsite. These tips were a life and sanity saver trying to get my dry food addict Wink off the dry and eating wet. It was a trial of persistence and patience but paid off in the end since he went OTJ and has been diet controlled now for 17 months.

Sue suggested using some treats on the food. The Halo Liv-a-Little freeze dried chicken treats were key to getting Wink to eat more of his wet food. I'd crumble a treat on top of the wet food, and he'd eat a bit. Then another treat crumbled on top to get him to eat a bit more. I might have to do this 4-5 times to get him to eat enough, but it worked well for us.

If your cat prefers to free feed, than that is the way you need to go. Because of his picky eating, get a good long acting, slower onset insulin like Prozinc, Lantus or Levimir. The NPH insulins like Humulin or Novolin N act too fast and drop the BG levels too steeply and we certainly don't want your kitty to have a hypo if he won't eat.
 
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