A New Member's Advice to other New Members

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Cini Mini's Mom

Member Since 2011
As a new member of the FDMB (2 months), I just want to impart my impressions to other new members that may be at a crossroads as to their pet's care.

Keep in mind the people who are posting in the Insulin Support Groups giving advice are just that - people.

Be patient. They have jobs, they have kids, they have duties and responsibilities away from the forum just like any of us. They are not the Help Desk ready to answer a question as soon as it's posted.

They are also non-professional caregivers. Their advice should always be taken with a grain of salt and evaluated by you, the caregiver, to determine if that advice really applies to your pet's situation. If you want a professional opinion then ask your Vet for a referral to the nearest Veterinary school and you can spend hours with endocrinologists and lab-work and all that comes from that. Can't afford to pay for that? Then remember what you are getting for paying nothing here on this board. Advice.

Be specific in what you are asking. Many times (and I was guilty of this, and may still be) the person asking for help was ambiguous in what they were asking. "Help. Fluffy doesn't feel well." doesn't really give these people much to go on. They are not mind readers and they certainly have less information than you do as to your pet's daily routine. A better way to ask a question would be "Help. Fluffy doesn't feel well, he hasn't eaten in 6 hours and the last Blood Glucose reading I took was at 8:00am and it read 300." Now there's some data to go on.

And speaking of data .... You must learn how to communicate in the same language as the people you are asking help and advice from. This a numbers game no matter what kind of insulin you use. And those numbers are the "secret language" of how your pet is doing that day, that week, or that month. Don't have enough time to set up a spreadsheet? Then write down the readings on a piece of paper and post them when you have time. Asking forum advisers to tell you what to do next with only a handful of data is like asking them to guess what's in your pocket and the only clue they get is that it's yellow. Really? Really?

It's your responsibility to determine how your pet's quality of life is being managed. You are ultimately the final word in your pet's life or death.

The reason why many people come to FDMB is because they felt that they were not getting the full story from their Vet or the full answers to their questions from other sources. If you think the advice you are getting from a more experienced person trying to help you in these forums doesn't fit your situation then keep pressing for another opinion or seek out more defined answers to your questions. There is nothing wrong with responding "Please explain your reasoning." or "I don't understand." And if that person can't adequately explain what they meant to you in the first place, then the problem is theirs not yours, and should give you an indication of the kind of advice you are being given.

Managing a pet with Feline Diabetes is a full time job. This is not a "set and forget" type of disease, you already realized that from speaking to a Vet that wants you to "set and forget" by giving 2 units of insulin twice a day no matter what and wants you to buy the prescription food that they sell in their clinic. Feline diabetes is a team effort involving you and your cat. If you make the commitment to manage your cat's diabetes away from your Vet's recommended protocol you will have to become more involved in your pet's care. There is no way around that.


You likely came to this forum at the suggestion of someone from the main Feline Health forum. These forums are specialized in several types of Insulin and methods of treatment for Feline Diabetes.

Now is the time to ask yourself some questions :

*Do I have the time, resources, and patience to go down this road with my pet?
*Do I want to stick close to what my Vet told me but seek support from other people who are in the same situation as I am?
*Do I want to manage my pet's care as best as I can and improve on what my Vet has told me?
*Do I want to try alternative methods to manage or even alleviate Feline Diabetes in my pet that my Vet doesn't know about?

The answers to those questions can be found in any one of these Insulin Support Groups.

Ok, it is now up to you to go out and decide if you are a good knife juggler or a good fire juggler. Keep in mind, either way, you will be juggling. And, after a while, you will become the best damned juggler anyone has ever seen! :-D

I advise you in about a month or two from now to go back to the very first post you made on this forum and admire how far you have come from that frantic call for help. You can do this! We are here to help you!

Stay safe and give kitty many many skritches and love! cat_pet_icon
 
Nicely done, Cathy!

I love the part about going back and reading one's first posts. I printed out my posts (way back in 2008) and I laugh at them now. But I do remember being somewhat overwhelmed and trying to digest all the information. What I enjoy most is going back and reading all the friendly support I got from day one. That is what encouraged me to study all those links and ask questions... why, why, why... just like a two year old. :lol: That's how I learned.
 
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When I first realized that Lantus Land wasn't "staffed" - that people were here at all times of day answering my questions and helping me out of the GOODNESS OF THEIR HEARTS (!) - I was blown away. Still am. :-D
 
Being here almost 4 yrs, I would like to tell a different side here--I had a vet who continued to raise my cat's dose of Humilin N, and Moonie got NO BETTER. That night when I was so so down, he wanted me to raise it to 4U, that night I found FDMB. And contacted a vet who would give Moonie lantus!
This place has more knowledge & experience than my original vet had..Giving, helpful people found me here & gave me a light in the dark tunnel I was in...They spent many days & night helping me with Moonie..
Unselfishly , without malice, they gave--One member also came here & showed me how to bg test Moonie..
That to me, gave me the love & caring I have for this forum!
Now I pay it forward, and do my best to help other members- I ALWAYS GIVE ADVICE TO OTHERS FROM MY OWN EXPERIENCES HERE!
THis is what this LL -"TR" forum is all about!--
There are stickys from Rebecca (Attention Registered newbies) and Feline Diabetes -FAQ-Newcomers, Start Here for Newcomers--I think yours is your opinion, and that's fine this is an open discussion group...But I think replication of already given information is extraneous..
Good Luck with your cat in the Sugar Dance!
 
Hi Roni,

I think you are referring to the same post I made in another forum and someone's response suggesting it should be a sticky there.

Although I am flattered that someone would want to make my post a sticky, I would agree with you and Rebecca that it really isn't necessary. The reason why I posted this in all of the ISGs is because of the numerous PMs I received from the original posting I did in the Think Tank thread saying my post was spot on for what new members should know.

And yes, this is my opinion. Hopefully that came across as such when I said in my post that this was advice from one new member to another and my post was meant to give my impression of my experiences here at FDMB so far.

I welcome anyone to add to this thread their experiences, agreeable or not to mine. Because, after all, it's your experience and I can't write that for you.
 
Roni, I am deleting my previous post, because you just said everything I thought I was saying, but perhaps didn't.

You know my experience with Kitty was the same. The vet who first "treated" Kitty's diabetes nearly killed him with mis-dosing. The people in Lantus Land saved Kitty's life.

For a long time, I didn't even realize that what I was doing was "tight regulation." I was learning how to dose insulin (OMG! :o nailbite_smile ) and safely handle the changes in BG that came as we weaned him from a dose too high, changed him from bad "prescription" hard food ( :shock: ) and gradually encouraged Kitty's pancreas to give it another try.

All I was doing was learning to safely use Lantus to treat diabetes.
 
Cathy, I love what you said about recognizing that people in LL are volunteers, and about taking responsibility.

Our first "set and forget" vet almost killed Kitty. In retrospect, I think he approached feline diabetes that way because many of the people in his waiting room would not want, or be able, to truly manage the disease. And some cats in his practice did okay. But how do you know in advance whether your kitty will be one of the lucky ones.

I just hope that newcomers will be encouraged to learn the essentials of hands-on diabetes care (there is no other kind) before deciding which practices they can bend or change, based on knowledge of the disease and their cats.
 
Hey Kathy, I agree. I think there is a prevalence in the Veterinary community (it may be changing slightly) that once a cat has diabetes then that's a life sentence and what's the use of trying any other approach if that's the case.

What really woke me up was the experience Cini and I had at the emergency Vet when he got sick and 3 out of the 4 Vets we spoke to each had the same question "Why are you giving him different amounts of insulin twice a day? Why don't you just give him 2 units twice a day and be done with it?" I told them "You give my cat more than 1 unit twice a day and you'll kill him."

I was more worried about them making Cini go hypo than the original reason (not diabetes related) why I had to bring him to the emergency Vet to begin with!

I surprise my regular Vet every week or so with the news that his dose has decreased and he's down from where I reported the previous time. She really is impressed with the the methods and advice I picked up here on the FDMB and in Lantus Land. She's back in the office on Thursday and I hope to be able to report to her that Cini will be off the juice for 5 days by then ! :mrgreen:
 
I love success stories like Cini's!!!!

And every time a kitty is safely regulated, healthy and even goes OTJ, another vet learns more about feline diabetes. I have suffered real crises of confidence in vets over our experience. (You can read our profile to see how truly bad it was.) I'm sadder but wiser now, and just feel so lucky that we found FDMB in time to get Kitty well.

YAY for Cini, and big yay for you for bringing your vets along with you. :mrgreen:
 
Cathy, I'm so glad you posted this in all the forums. I too was very impressed when I read the original in Think Tank. While I agree that it doesn't need to be a sticky, it would be great to see it reposted periodically like the "Dear Mom" post. :thumbup :YMHUG:
 
Just looked at my first posts from months ago.......boy did I have a LOT to learn.
Many thanks to the members of this board for all their help answering my questions!
 
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What an amazing post! I missed it when it was written, so am glad to see it bumped. :-D
Newbies have no idea, that this forum is manned by volunteers, who are extremely gracious with their time and expertise.

I was reading my own first post in LL, yesterday, and realized I did the same thing.
I had no idea that all of you/us, are 'real people', not an invisible paid 'help section'.
I just started asking, without even a greeting or introducing myself. :oops:

I am soooo grateful to all the generous people who give up their own time to help.
 
BUMP - & thank you for the wonderful post - LL has saved Tigger's life - & mine because I couldn't live on the ceiling for very long! LL volunteers have hearts of gold & LOTS of patience - I know I was - & still am :oops: - a big PAIN
 
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