9/8/2019 Yoda AMPS 529 +5 40 +6 104 +6.5 207 +8 272 +9 323

Sarah12

Sarah12

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Hi,
Yoda went to the ER vet this last thursday for feeling lethargic and yowling a lot. He was diagnosed with a stomach issue and was sent with anti ulcer meds. Appetite wise he has shown improvement today and is acting like a normal voracious diabetic kitty. I've been gone since friday so my brother has mainly been taking care of him.
Yoda had sudden low numbers yesterday morning which my brother monitored until it went up. Today I overslept from my trip and when I just checked at +5 it was 40!! He is not symptomatic hypo, just hungry. I gave honey and higher carb food. My brother accidentally gave him 0.75 at AM yesterday when he was at 65, but since then I have been giving 0.5. What is causing these crazy drops?!
 
Hi Sarah!

I want to say first that I have to leave the house shortly so I can't stay with you but: NICE CATCH!

Is it possible for you to retest and confirm that Yoda's BG levels are that low and that it wasn't a false reading? IF it is still that low on the second test you should change your title to have the "911" prefix so that you can get some more eyes on your post and hopefully someone that can stay with you....

Re-test again in 20 mins, see if Yoda's numbers are going up, if they are going up test again in another 20 mins, if they aren't please feed more HC gravy and test again in another 20 mins.

You have to keep this 20 min testing schedule until he's in safe numbers. Once he is in safe numbers test again in a half hour to confirm he is keeping his BG up. You have to keep testing in half hour increments for two hours after your last intervention with food to keep his numbers up to know that he is safe
 
Sarah, please keep your title updated with all of your tests today so that you can get support from members that are on :)

You have already done great by intervening with HC, when you feed only feed a tsp or two at a time so that Yoda doesn't get too full.

Also this is a just in case, but it would be a good idea to make sure you know the contact information and location of the emergency vet on call this weekend in case you can't keep Yoda's numbers up.
 
Wow! That's quite a drop!

Yes, please re-test in 20.

I have not been following Yoda's story-- did anything change in the last few days (other than a different caregiver)? Food change?
 
Sarah -- did you think to re-test? While that impressive of a drop is certain possible, I would encourage you to to re-test when you seen that big of a drop. I know. you'll be getting some tests soon so it may be a moot point today.

In case you haven't seen this sticky note, it's a good guide for handling low numbers.

It looks like there are a bunch of. us keeping our eyes on Yoda. It sounds like he missed you and now wants all of your attention!!
 
It was a real number! :(
Yes I have been checking and it has been going up now.

@Nan & Amber
Yesterday, the food was the same. The last several days he has been getting FF instead of Tiki Cat since he has been turning his nose up at that more. Today (I got the auto feeder yesterday but haven't set it up completely) I tried to switch him to smaller meals more frequently. So at 3 am he got a can of FF, 6 am a can with shot, and I was planning 12 PM a can but I gave it to him early along with some Tiki Cat as he was really hungry. Did the smaller meals mess him up? He usually gets 2 cans with a shot twice a day.
 
OK, with the 104 you can back off on feeding, but please re-test again in a half hour. We want to make sure he's coming up on his own.

I had the same thought as Sienne, that the 40 might have been a bad strip, but with the 104, maybe he did actually go that low, wow. Definitely always a good idea to re-test when you get a result like that (weirdly low or high), just in case.
 
Smaller meals shouldn't make a difference like that-- they might help to keep him at a more level BG, but they shouldn't make him drop like that.

Sometimes the answer is just "that's what the cat decided to do", there is no logic, but just out of curiosity, what flavors of Tiki Cat had he been eating? I've never used it and don't recall anyone having a problem with it, but you never know, maybe some of the flavors are higher carb than they are supposed to be.
 
If BG is now 104, Yoda is safe right now. What food did you give him when you got that low number and how much? The goal now is to keep him surfing in dark green/low blues. I agree a retest in 30 minutes is needed.
 
I want to plant an idea for your consideration. I don't think you have enough data yet and Yoda's number are still bouncy and in the higher ranges, but it's possible he has an early nadir. If that's the case, you will want to "front load" his food. Gabby had an early nadir. If you look at her SS, you'll see what I mean. I fed her at PS, +1, +2, and +3. The food spread out over the early part of the cycle helped to buffer her drop into low numbers. Like Nan said, spreading the food out until nadir (regardless of when it falls) helps to prop up the numbers.
 
@Nan & Amber I have been giving him Ahi Tuna with Prawns and plain Ahi Tuna which are both 0 carb I think.

@MrWorfMen's Mom I may have over done it. As soon as I saw the low number I gave him a can of FF with honey mixed in...then I gave a scoop of friskies pate after that, and about half an hour later about 2-3 oz of tiki cat.

@Sienne and Gabby (GA) So if Yoda would normal getting 2 cans of FF for breakfast, would I spread out the two cans over the next three hours?

thank you all so much, sorry I am frazzled.
 
HMMM! Yoda must be ready to burst. You're not the first to overdo and you won't be the last. ;) chances are good that's going to hold him for quite a while so if he's holding now, I think you are in the clear for a few hours. :)
 
I suspect Yoda's belly is quite full!! Frazzled is quite normal when it comes to low numbers in the beginning. You'll be a pro in no time.

Keep in mind that if numbers are low, you want to "steer" them upward. If you are extremely generous with the food and you need to repeatedly test and feed to keep the numbers up, it's possible that your cat won't be hungry or will vomit the food. A teaspoon or two of HC or a drop or two of honey is all that's needed unless numbers are really low.

At this point, spreading the food out over the first half of the cycle is fine. I was putting information out there for you to tuck away should you see Yoda's numbers dropping early in the cycle. If you can feed him at PS, +2, +4 and maybe +6, that should be fine. Alternatively, it's also fine if you want to feed Yoda they way I did Gabby. When it comes to managing the cycle with food, there's no one "right" way -- it depends on your cat and when onset and nadir occur.
 
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