8/30 foster Tzuri (lev) - how to reduce bouncing?

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laur+danny+horde

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Good morning everyone. Any suggestions for anything I can do to reduce the BG swings or bounces that Tzuri is experiencing?

She is on a very tiny dose with very little room to increase. In fact I don't even know what to call her dose. It's on the edge of the zero line, but at the top of the zero line (with the top being oriented towards the plunger, away from the needle part). Anyone know what that dose is? It's more than a drop. Thanks in advance.

Overall, Tzuri is doing well although she has turned out to be quite domineering. She has taken over as the alpha and the only one she gets along with well is Cole. Tzuri eats heartily and is enjoying the fenced yard for several hours a day. She is quite the comfort queen though: if there's a pillow around, she's on it.

new pix:
Cole and Tzuri
Tzuri outside - shiny coat!
 
Tzuri is going for the rainbow kitty award so it would seem.... some of them are like that.

FWIW, I think you need more spot checks. Yesterday looks like a rebound day but rebound looked like it was clearing in the evening. Also, it's difficult to figure out what is going on when you change the dose. I'm not sure why you went from 1 drop to fat zero.

If you want to stick to fat 0 or 0.1, keep on that dose, get some spot checks and manipulate the bounces with food. What I mean is cushion the onset and feed the curve. Mocha's condo of the 27 had a cvery good discussion on food, it would be worth looking for it and bookmarking it.

I hope this helps.
 
thanks for the feedback. Unfortunately I work very long hours, day and evening, and don't get much sleep as is. Therefore I am not able to test as much as I'd like. Necessarily, food is set out for free feeding of the 8 cats. Health flareups can cause limitations too. I am working on training Tzuri to come when called, but sometimes when I'd like to test her, she's out romping in the yard. So I am forced to make decisions on the limited data I can get. it's not ideal but it's the way things are.

The 1-drop was a single BCS dose due to a preshot of 67. It was skip entirely or give her a little, so I chose the drop. With a preshot of 67 on 8/27, the .25 was too high (too risky) for me hence the reduction to .1u. But even on a previous dose of 1 drop followed by 0.10, I got a +6 67 on 8/28 hence the response of dosing with middle of the road 'top of the zero line' which I think is about 3 drops.) Mid-cycle 60s are too risky for my taste when I am not there to intervene if she has a hypo; there may not be any food left. What food there is, is low carb anyway and may not suffice. I have done tighter regulation with Danny in the past but that was when I could be there to test and respond if needed. That's not my situation now. I would be happy with a low of 80 - 100. My goal is primarily safety.

Honestly, I am listening and trying to do what I can. But my life is what it is. Any ideas that will work within my constraints? If not, thanks for reading this far.

laur
 
as far as I know, there are three ways to manipulate numbers: with insulin, with food, or with time. What a lot of the people here with bouncers are doing is front loading the cycle with mini meals. For example, take the food you would normally feed in a 12 hour cycle and split it into 4 equal mini meals, feeding at (for example) PS, +1, +2, +3. For a lot of cats, that is helping soften the initial fast drop, so the cat doesn't bounce as much. It will level out the cycle at a slightly higher level. Then once the cat is flat at a higher level, they can increase the insulin to try to bring the whole flat range down. It takes a while, but some cats who have been very hard to regulate are now doing well with that approach.

I think if you can't manipulate insulin or food due to schedule, then you just have to wait. Most cats do stop bouncing at some point. Some take quite a while, but they usually do.
 
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