8/23 Ella amps 255+3=325 full mouth extractions?!

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Hello all,

Late post this afternoon as we just came back from the vet. Poor Ella has what seems to be Gingivo-Stomatitis :sad: They will know more when she's under and see the xrays but generally this diagnosis results in the extraction of all the teeth :cry:
This vet doesn't do dental for more than 2 hours so it would mean that Ella would have to go for multiple visits. Her colleague, a certified dentist, supposedly will do all extractions in one sitting and she is contacting her to talk about Ella's case. I'm not sure what route I will take. I'd kinda like to try brushing her teeth after she's had a cleaning and extractions to see if I can combat the bacteria and plaque but many times the stomatitis resurfaces so I'm not sure what's best. She was a surprised that her mouth got so bad since her last vet visit (2 months ago) when it was indicated by my vet that she had some gingivits forming. This vet suspects she's had this going on for some time now. So all in all, bad news for Miss Ella. She must feel so uncomfortable although she did lap up her food today. When she was at the vet she had to go to the bathroom and decided the best place would be on my purse :shock: so I'm laundering it right now.

Will fill you in more when the vet call me back.

Sending healing vines to Marje for her tummy and comfort vines to Sienne for the loss of her vet and friend.
 
Re: 8/23 Ella amps 255+3=325 back from vet

Ahhh, poor Ella. Good thing she is on wet food now, because soon that may be all she can eat. It is good to have an answer for why she isn't feeling so well. The shelter I worked at we had a cat have to have all her teeth removed. She did well on an all wet food diet, and had the sweetest personality after all the pain was gone.

Sorry about the purse, hope nothing valuable inside got damaged.
 
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Tamara, I'm so sorry about Ella's diagnosis of Gingivo-Stomatitis. It sounds like you have a great team taking every precaution with Ella. I know it's not the news you wanted to hear, but now you know and can decide the next steps. Oh poor Ella in the purse. Sending her lots of love and healing vines and hugs for you.
 
Re: 8/23 Ella amps 255+3=325 back from vet

Thanks for your kind words and support Wendy and Ann:)

The vet called after speaking with the certified dentist (there are only two in Toronto) and said that she could do Ella's whole mouth in one sitting so now it's up to us to make the decision of what we want to do. Our options are this: take her to the vet we saw today and get the xrays and 6-8 extractions and be vigilant about brushing ,if we can. This would involve bringing her in for yearly cleaning and most likely more extractions OR send her to the certified dentist and get the whole mouth done. Does anyone have a kitty that they have had to do this for? The latter option is the best to cure stomatitis but there are some instances when it is so bad that a cat still gets it in the end and has to be on chronic pain medication. The first option is a bit more affordable for the time being but after a few rounds of dentistry I'm sure we'll be paying more in the long run. I've never had to deal with dentistry so this is new territory for me. Any advice is greatly appreciated.

Thanks!
 
Let me tell yout he story of Rosy, Tamara.
I took Rosy to the vet when she was around 5 yrs old for a general dental work. The vet was very experienced who a lot of us, cat owners trusted. When I went to pick her up, he told me Rosy's stomatitis & he had extracted all her teeth except those few at the front. I was shocked but he said that's the best for Rosy because "sooner or later" this has to be done. The recovery was not difficult or painful ( as far as I noticed) Rosy was eating dry plus canned food during this period. She had no problem eating dry knibbles because I guess she swallowed it. Now Rosy still have around 5 tooth in her mouth, is the stomatitis healed? I think so because she never had problem with her eating. Since her DM, I took her to this "new" vet asking to have her teeth (if any) & her gums checked. He said it's ok. The old vet has retired already.
It is controversal on whole mouth's teeth extraction . Ive read during these years that stomatitis is an inflamation of the gum. Caused by various reasons, canbe germ, rotton tooth , immune issue. It is the proble of the gum, some said removing the teeth only eliminate one possible cause.
Do more research, study, ask for second opinion before making your decision Tamara. Do not rush in to decision.
Good luck and remember we all try our best to help & care for our furry babies but sometimes things are beyond our knowledge & control.
 
Shadow only has a few teeth left. she has Feline odontoclastic resorptive lesions.
Last march , it took all of her fangs ( that was an adjustment, makes it harder for her to pick up the food off her plate)
Her vet says they can still eat dry without teeth. They still do so with the gum ridge but she lost interest in dry food after that surgery. Many cats just swallow small kibble whole without chewing it anyway.
But she loved dry treats like greenies and friskies party favors so she manage those fine without teeth. ( then dx for diabetes 3 months later and all the dry treats went in the trash)

I thought all her teeth were gone and I wish they were because most likely we'll have to do another surgery some year
to remove her remaining teeth when they crack and get painful. ( she yawned and I saw some still in the middle)

I have another cat who also lost all her teeth and she does fine. She's 15 now and still going.

We haven't had the stomatitis issue but it is okay to be without teeth so if it turns out to be a necessity for Ella, she'll be
fine without teeth.
She just won't be flashing any pearl-y whites for her pictures :-D
 
There was a member here from Turkey whose cat had stomatitis. When the extractions were done, the cat became far better regulated and went OTJ 3 months later. At the very least, getting the dental done will help with regulation.

I think the question to ask your vet is what the risks are. Anesthesia always involves a risk. I don't know if the risk is less with 2 (or more) shorter procedures or one longer procedure. My inclination is that the more times a cat is under anesthesia, the greater the risk.
 
Poor little Ella! I don't know anything about stomatitis but wanted to let you know how badly I feel for you and Ella. That's terrilble to get all the teeth out at once. I had to have that done for myself and it was rotten to go through. At least it was all over with though. once I recovered, I didn't have to suffer with pain any more. It has good and bad points.
Poor Ella must have been so scared to do that to your purse! Poor sweet girl.

I know whatever you decide to do will be right, Tamara. Just read up on it first.

Hugs,
Melanie & Racci
 
Tamara, I'm so sorry you are having to deal with all of this. Poor Ella! I can't offer any advice because Simon only had 6 extractions. He did fine with the pain and even ate regular food that night. The bill was the worst part! :o

Sending big hugs to you and Ella!
 
Trix also did well with her 7 extractions last year, but I'm sure this news for Ella is a lot to think about. We've got you in our thoughts and prayers...no matter what, you've got all of LL behind you!
 
Thank you SO much for visiting with your kind words, personal experiences and encourgement :YMHUG:
It means a lot to have so many people care for little Ella. I feel really poorly that she may be losing all of her teeth but by the sounds of it, the procedure will be beneficial for her health. I will ask the doctor if one procedure is riskier than the other in terms of anesthesia and I'll keep you posted with our decision.

Ella is in the pinks. She managed to have a nice string of greens the other day and is probably still bouncing. Will think about an increase if she doesn't show me anything good soon.

Thanks again!
 
Moonie has about 4-5 teeth left and she had 4 extractions one year & 5 the next--She was much happier & recovered quickly! Pray that you find the easiest answer for Ella & that she will be well--Moonie still crunches on the temptations I give her to bring her bgs up, and I heard that their gums get harder so that they
can chew--Prayers of Healing for sweet Ella--Just think what a difference the dental will make in her numbers--
Hugs & Love from us!
 
Awwww Tamara i'm sorry to hear Ella is having to deal with this. I remember that member from Turkey whose cat had the same issue, had all the kitty's teeth pulled and BAM an OTJ party was happening. Whatever you decide to do is in Ella's best interest and i hope her mouth feels better soon.
 
Donny had all but 4 teeth extracted, and that did not stop him from trying to steal kibble. His BGs improved within a couple of weeks. I have a civvie who had extensive extractions done a few months ago, and it has not slowed down her eating either. They figure it out, and they feel so much better after the offending teeth are gone. Both of my cats were risky surgical cases, so the procedures were done by dental specialists with appropriate pre-tests and precautions taken.

MJ
 
Thanks for your visits Tracey, Roni and MJ:) It sure does help to hear about other people's experiences with extractions. I hope she will heal quickly and that it will help to regulate her diabetes.
 
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