8-1 Loose Lips - Come join the party!

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squeem3

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Today is Leroy's first birthday :RAHCAT :shock:

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(Above pic would have been great for Emma's birthday a few weeks ago since she's a tuxedo)

Cake and drinks for everyone flip_cat

I posted the latest Leroy news in Saturday's Loose Lips.
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEROY!!
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Marjorie had asked about fish oil in my condo today, and I had typed up some general information about fish oil there, that I thought would be better shared in Loose Lips so as not to tie up Wilie's condo. I did a ton of research on fish oil last fall after my doctor recommended it to me. It is a largely unregulated product, which has meant that companies use all kinds of numbers and claims to confuse people into buying their products. Here is some general info to help folks make good decisions on what to buy:

Labels on fish oil can be very confusing. You'll see # mg of fish oil, # mg of Omega 3 and #mg each of EPA/DHA. EPA and DHA are the two omega 3 fatty acids that have been proven to show positive benefits. There are others as well that are considered to be less beneficial. So, when figuring out how much to take, you need to look at the EPA/DHA number and see how many pills you need to get to the number your vet or doctor has given you. My doctor says take 3,000mg/day for general health, 4,000mg/day to affect cholesterol/triglycerides, 5,00mg/day for depression and 5,000-6,00/day for inflammation.

As an example, Costco has four different options for fish oil:

Nature Made-- 2400mg "fish oil" per two capsules, 360mg EPA, 120 mg DHA, 120 mg "other" Omega 3, 25 calories. $0.04/pill.
Nature's Bounty Maximum Strength-- 1400mg "fish oil" per capsule, 700 EPA, 280 DHA, 10 calories. $0.11/pill.
Kirkland Regular-- 1000mg "fish oil" per capsule, 300mg EPA/DHA/Other (doesn't specify), 10 calories, $0.02/pill
Kirkland Enteric-- 1200 mg "fish oil" per capsule, 410 mg EPA, 274mg DHA, 10 calories per pill, $0.09/pill

At a blush, it is hard to break down the differences, especially given that some products will list the info for two capsules while others list it for one.

Lets say you want to take approximately 3000mg EPA/DHA per day:
Nature Made-- 12 pills= 2880mg, 300 calories, $0.48/dose
Nature's Bounty-- 3 pills= 2940mg, 30 calories, $0.33/dose
Kirkland Regular-- 10+ pills =3000mg (total Omega 3, not clear how much EPA/DHA), 300 calories, $0.22/dose
Kirkland Enteric-- 4 pills = 2736mg, 40 calories, $0.36/dose

It takes a little work, but knowing what to look for and breaking down the numbers to an apples to apples comparison helps make decisions much easier.

While Kirkland regular appears to be the cheapest, you're getting a huge number of calories, likely a ton of fish burps (no coating) and you have to take 10 pills a day... which contain just under 10,000mg of "other" fish oil that isn't Omega 3. The Nature's Bounty product is new, and it is VERY similar to OmegaVia in terms of the EPA/DHA amounts, and if commenters on costco.com aren't being given the run around from the company, it is sourced from small wild fish from U.S. and Canadian waters. I was quite surprised... this appears to be a very high quality product that is easily the best drugstore branded product on the market (assuming you get that particular variety).

I personally think sourcing is very important, both in terms of the type of fish being used (the smaller the fish, the less risk of contaminants) and country of origin (problems have been noted with fish oil sourced from Chinese fish). Note that this is something you may have to ask... right now, if fish oil pills are manufactured in the US, the manufacturer can claim they are of U.S. origin, even if the fish themselves came from China.

One last thing... fish oil can go rancid, so it is best to keep in the freezer, especially if you buy in bulk.

Hope folks find this information helpful!
 
HAPPY BIRTHDAY LEROY!!!

Hey Leroy, I'm coming to your party to enjoy the cake and the drinks. (You sure you're old enough for drinks??)

See you later,
Rusty
 
Rusty, Iz got kitten-safe drinks and adult drinks. Even drinks for the beanz :-D Iz trilling and talking this morning :-D Toaster (aka Emma. Her name at adoptopn was Toaster Strudel) whacked me and told me to be quiet but Iz want to celebrate birthday dancing_cat

- Leroy
 
Thanks for the fish oil information. That was recommended to me last week as something to squirt over Zener's food to make it smell stronger and perhaps increase his appetite. So far, he thinks it is disgusting but Tillie, our civvie, thinks it is marvelous. I hadn't even considered all the important nutritional information. I will bookmark this post for the future!

Now, we have a party to get ready for...Zener is hoping someone makes kibble cocktails, he misses his kibble so! ;-)
 
good info christie! not to be shallow, but especially on the calories! i mean who wants to add 300 cal per day to your diet? that's 1 lb every 10 days or 3 lbs a month! my husband takes fish oil - i'm also interested in the source of it - so i'll pass it on.

happy birthday leroy! wahoo! kitty party! punkin & anya will be there with catnip for kitters only. beans can't have any of the catnip!

i've discovered the perfect antidote to my sentimental attachment to things. cat pee. add a little cat pee and i don't want to keep it anymore. age the cat pee and my sentimentality goes right out the door to the garbage can!

yes, punkin peed on a piece of plastic in the laundry room. i'd picked up the wallpaper bag and tossed it, but there was a folded plastic paint cloth (the better to disguise his use, apparently) on the floor and who knows when he went. probably was when i was in guatemala by the lovely aged smell of it. not a whiff til i moved the plastic and then OHMYGOD. until then it just looked like a folded paint tarp on the floor. that's what i get for cleaning up the laundry room. nearly knocked me over.

today's casualty was my "cute" yellow plastic rain hat from when i was a kid (no, i don't know why it was there - anya swipes things and moves them all over) and the dog collar from our last dog. again, i don't know why it was there. let's just keep blaming anya. i really don't store things on the floor, but somehow they end up there anyway. :lol: i'm really not a hoarder and not even a pig, even if it does sound like it.
 
omg, julie... your cat pee post has me snorting quite obnoxiously in my office! Have a favorite skirt with that very dilemma, though i'm going to try one of the spray products as they've worked well for me in the past.

and the calorie thing is not shallow! On the OmegaVia blog, the nutritionist talked about how he got a call from a woman who was working hard to lose weight and I think train for a marathon. Her doctor recommended fish oil to help the inflammation resulting from all the working out, and she started taking the actual recommended dose of one of the costco ones and suddenly found she was gaining weight... turns out, the fish oil she was taking equaled more than a snickers bar a day in calories, and she wasn't accounting for those in her daily calorie targets.

To me, what is also bad is that people see "1000mg fish oil" on a label and assume that is 1000mg of what they need, so they are spending money on pills their doctor is recommending that are actually doing nothing because they mistakenly don't take enough.
 
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do you know anything about krill oil? the people at GNC talked me into buying a bottle of that but i only took a few before i developed a rash and stopped. turned out the rash was from something else, but once out of the habit it takes a herculean effort for me to get back on the plan!
 
Julie you made me laugh today :lol: THANK YOU!

My Puty used to pee on any piece of clothing that didnt smell like me. :shock: Can you say unhappy visitors?
 
Leroy partied all night.... literally @-) He and Emma were chasing each other around and crashing into things again for awhile @-) And Leroy insisted on trilling the entire time @-) At some point they got on the bed and went to sleep. Well, maybe not Leroy. Leroy never actually sleeps :shock: Emma can sleep like a rock and ignore the world. Leroy's ADD keeps him from sleeping like a normal cat :razz: Every little noise or movement distracts him.
 
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