7/1 Xena AMPS 305, +3 320, +6.5 275 / PMPS 324 , +3.5 351, +7 288

Don & Xena

Member Since 2023
So, with her numbers, trending upwards I was wondering if the insulin had anything to do with it as I discussed with Wendy yesterday. I popped open a new vial and gave her her PM dose from the “new” vile this afternoon, and her numbers are even higher…
Here’s the thing… I have three vials of Lantis that I got from a woman I met on Facebook who is diabetic and switched to pens. They were sent to me in the mail in styrofoam with an ice pack. They got here in two days and the weather was in the 40 - 50°F range when they were sent. When they arrived. The gel ice pack was no longer frozen, but they still felt cool, and I opened one of the boxes to look at it, and it was crystal clear, I’m assuming they were OK but of course you never know right. The reason I bought them is because I I can’t afford to pay $200 plus for insulin. However, I was able to get my prescription filled for $35 with the coupon somebody shared on here so I used the insulin that came direct from the pharmacy and figured I would keep the others for back up.
I don’t know if the insulin has anything to do with this upward trend, but it’s possible it has nothing to do with the insulin at all. I just don’t know why all of a sudden she went from downward trend to going back up the numbers I haven’t seen in a long time.
Everyone says that Lantus is good for at least several months as long as you keep it refrigerated. That being said, I have no reason to think that the vial I’ve been using has anything wrong with it aside from the fact that I left it out on accident a couple times for several hours being the longest… maybe 4-5 hrs…the consensus from the people who I’ve asked on here is that it should be fine. (of course people say , you’ll notice it not working, if it’s not OK… Which is the whole reason I am wondering about it)
There is one refill on the prescription from my vet (that I was using, but have not seen in quite some time) that I believe I can get for $35 from the pharmacy. I wanted to save that for when this bottle ran out because I don’t know if this vet is going to refill her prescription when I go back and Basically tell him I’ve been doing things my own way since he prescribed the insulin. I want to try a new vet anyway, and eventually I will have to get a refill, but I was hoping to stay that off possible.
If the insulin I’ve been using, was losing its strength, I don’t know if the vile opened today (provided it’s not compromised) would take time to help her numbers come back down… Filling the depot, etc.
So both insulins could be good, or they both could be bad, or one can be good, and the other can be bad, or it could have nothing to do with the insulin at all.
Maybe the only sure way to figure it out is to get the refill and start with a fresh vile that I know is sound.

I know it’s a mess of a conundrum, but thoughts and advice are welcome please. I could just go back to the vile. I was using for the next few days see if she levels out. It’s just so weird that she’s gone back up to such a high level (comparatively speaking).
@Wendy&Neko


Yesterdays post:

https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/thr...creased-to-5-0-u-pmps-293-3-288-8-295.279073/
 
New Dose Wonkiness happens around the 2nd and/or 3rd cycle after an increase. Let's see what tomorrow brings. And I'd also like to see what those 0.5 unit increases do.
 
New Dose Wonkiness happens around the 2nd and/or 3rd cycle after an increase. Let's see what tomorrow brings. And I'd also like to see what those 0.5 unit increases do.

Ok… yeah I’ve been hoping those .5 increases would bump us closer to where we need to be.
Maybe I’m just too used to seeing her be so flat, and it’s not always going to be like that.
Thank you.
 
Ok… yeah I’ve been hoping those .5 increases would bump us closer to where we need to be.
Maybe I’m just too used to seeing her be so flat, and it’s not always going to be like that.
Thank you.
I had the same issue with my vet but he came around. Think he is giving me a heads up that once she reaches her units=to body weight he may change his mind. I send him a copy of her spreadsheet every now and then. We've also discussed a few things that may cause her insulin dose to be high but said he has on seen a few of those types of cats ...whatever.
 
From experience and for informational purposes..

I have left insulin out overnight by mistake and never had any issues. I also keep an extra bottle sealed in the fridge in the event of accidentally dropping it, etc. And still no issues, as long as its not past the expiration date.
 
From experience and for informational purposes..

I have left insulin out overnight by mistake and never had any issues. I also keep an extra bottle sealed in the fridge in the event of accidentally dropping it, etc. And still no issues, as long as its not past the expiration date.
Thank you. That’s a big help. Actually I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with any of the insulin, but my mind wanders in all kinds of directions when things look funny.
 
Thank you. That’s a big help. Actually I really don’t think there’s anything wrong with any of the insulin, but my mind wanders in all kinds of directions when things look funny.

Of course it does, we're all trying to figure it out along the way.

Hopefully as the increments of dosing go up by half units you'll see a bigger change.

Xena looks like she weighs about as much as Sly. And personally, I definitely think at the start of the FD journey, weight is a factor. Even humans need to compensate units for weight in the beginning until all the organs start responding as they should.

If you look at his SS, you'll see he didn't really show action until 5 or 5.5 units both times we had to increase.

Of course ECID, but my point is stay positive, because sometimes the numbers go from one extreme to another!
 
I paid $85.00 for 5 pens of Glargine at Walgreens and it is 100% the biosimilar for Lantus. The expire date on those is late 2024 the latest expire date I've gotten on pens. When I started this journey I paid $75.00 for one Lantus pen through my vet. I also used the GoodRX card and they have an 1-800 number to assist you if there are any issues in getting a pharmacy not giving you the discount price for an animal.
 
I paid $85.00 for 5 pens of Glargine at Walgreens and it is 100% the biosimilar for Lantus. The expire date on those is late 2024 the latest expire date I've gotten on pens. When I started this journey I paid $75.00 for one Lantus pen through my vet. I also used the GoodRX card and they have an 1-800 number to assist you if there are any issues in getting a pharmacy not giving you the discount price for an animal.
Yeah the coupon someone gave me on here was from Lantus.com, and they suggested a certain way for the vet to write the script, and he didn’t follow the suggestions, because he doesn’t like to be told what to do. I mean, I understand if someone’s a doctor they don’t want to take advice from Les people, but I wasn’t asking for him to change a diagnosis or a prescription I was just asking him to write it in a certain way, but I digress…. I went to CVS and the woman would not even try it because she said this is for humans and she had an attitude. I tried CVS because somebody told me that it works for them there. So then I took it to Walmart because there’s a really nice woman that works at the pharmacy and she said she would give it a shot and it worked so hopefully it’ll work again. Next time it wound up costing $35. I’m going to use the vials, and next time I get a prescription I’m going to ask for the pens.
 
Yeah the coupon someone gave me on here was from Lantus.com, and they suggested a certain way for the vet to write the script, and he didn’t follow the suggestions, because he doesn’t like to be told what to do. I mean, I understand if someone’s a doctor they don’t want to take advice from Les people, but I wasn’t asking for him to change a diagnosis or a prescription I was just asking him to write it in a certain way, but I digress…. I went to CVS and the woman would not even try it because she said this is for humans and she had an attitude. I tried CVS because somebody told me that it works for them there. So then I took it to Walmart because there’s a really nice woman that works at the pharmacy and she said she would give it a shot and it worked so hopefully it’ll work again. Next time it wound up costing $35. I’m going to use the vials, and next time I get a prescription I’m going to ask for the pens.
@Don & Xena
That happened with the pen needles to me paid almost 70 bucks until I studied and found this board and how to use the syringes. I'm going to post the link to the GoodRX site I took the paper script to Walgreens had everything on there to get it filled. The 800 number is there too. If I had to pay retail for each pen at Allie's dose I'd have to take out a mortgage.
Here is the link hope I'm allowed to post it here. https://support.goodrx.com/hc/en-us...for-my-pet-Can-you-help-me-find-a-pet-coupon-
 
@Don & Xena
That happened with the pen needles to me paid almost 70 bucks until I studied and found this board and how to use the syringes. I'm going to post the link to the GoodRX site I took the paper script to Walgreens had everything on there to get it filled. The 800 number is there too. If I had to pay retail for each pen at Allie's dose I'd have to take out a mortgage.
Here is the link hope I'm allowed to post it here. https://support.goodrx.com/hc/en-us...for-my-pet-Can-you-help-me-find-a-pet-coupon-
Thank you. :)
 
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