6 /17 PHOEBES AMPS 191 +2 115 +4.25 99 +6 113 pmps 215 +2.5 190

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This is whaT she wants her on? Any ideas on a cheaper doable priduct??
 
Bronx recently started using Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes. Main reason we started is for his constipation & to add a secondary probiotic to his diet, but also claims it helps the pancreas. "Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes are derived exclusivley from plant sources
is a powder that aids in digestion, helps control stool odor, diarrhea, bad breath, hairballs and sluggish appetite. Proper nutrient absorption results in healthier animals, shiny coats and aids in pancreas, kidney and liver function"

http://www.goodpet.com/dogs/digestive-support/feline-digestive-enzymes-4-oz/

bought it on Amazon, got good reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028OZJ2/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
 
Bronx's dad said:
Bronx recently started using Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes. Main reason we started is for his constipation & to add a secondary probiotic to his diet, but also claims it helps the pancreas. "Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes are derived exclusivley from plant sources
is a powder that aids in digestion, helps control stool odor, diarrhea, bad breath, hairballs and sluggish appetite. Proper nutrient absorption results in healthier animals, shiny coats and aids in pancreas, kidney and liver function"

http://www.goodpet.com/dogs/digestive-support/feline-digestive-enzymes-4-oz/

bought it on Amazon, got good reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028OZJ2/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
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Any noticeable differences?
 
My understanding (and I could be wrong) is digestive enzymes and pancreas enzymes are different (but similar?) Gizmo has been on pancreaplus which is a pancreas enzymes since 2014 (first pancreatitis attack). It is an RX that I have to get through my vet.

https://www.vetdepot.com/pancreplus-powder-12-oz.html

I add 1/8 teaspoon per 3 oz food. Caution-make sure to let food sit once enzymes are mixed in (15-20 min) or it can cause mouth users.
 
LizzieInTexas said:
Cool. Are you still giving marshmallow root? Or just the digestive enzymes. I am still using Miralax but down to a scant 1/8 teaspoon per cycle (distributed between his snacks).
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Still using the marshmallow root and started that about the same time as Dr Goodpet, so who knows which one has helped but I will continue both!
 
Nice job on the green Phoebe! Sorry I don't know what's in the pancreas booster, but I imagine it's completely different from what the vet is suggesting. Has Phoebe ever been tested for EPI (it's the TLI test which is part of the Texax GI panel)?
 
Hi Angela

Wendy asked me to pop in about the whole pancreatic enzyme discussion as I have some experience here,

Exocrine pancreatic insufficiency (EPI) is a nasty buggar. Cats with EPI don't have the enzymes needed to break down essential nutrients for absorption. Cats most prone to get EPI are those who have had chronic pancreatitis. Often foul smelling, fatty stools are a hallmark sign of EPI but other conditions can also result in that kind of stool. Other symptoms would be a constantly hungry kitty (but this would also apply to an acro kitty), weight loss, generally poor coat (looks greasy), and body condition. A cat with untreated EPI looks like its starving and, basically is. This is a condition that absolutely must be treated.

I'm wary of treating for EPI without testing for it because the treatment is pancreatic enzymes which (a) always require a prescription from your vet (b) are very pricey and (c) can burn the cat's digestive tissues if not administered correctly.

Texas A&M GI lab runs the test. You can have just the serum fTLI done but I don't know the cost. However, this is one of those conditions that I absolutely, personally, would not treat without a diagnosis. If anyone just offers to send you some pancreatic enzymes without you having a dx, I would encourage you to not accept.

Digestive enzymes are quite different and I, again personally, believe every cat no matter their health should be taking a good digestive enzyme meant for animals like Animal Essentials.

The Petalive pancreatic booster is, as Bobbie said, just an herbal pancreatic support and may or may not have any therapeutic benefit.

I hope that helps.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Often foul smelling, fatty stools are a hallmark sign of EPI but other conditions can also result in that kind of stool. Other symptoms would be a constantly hungry kitty (but this would also apply to an acro kitty), weight loss, generally poor coat (looks greasy), and body condition
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She has all of these. Her stools are not like that all the time but yesterday I belive was a flareup and she had 2 that were grey, one loose, that ran us out of the house.
 
Bronx's dad said:
Bronx recently started using Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes. Main reason we started is for his constipation & to add a secondary probiotic to his diet, but also claims it helps the pancreas. "Dr. Goodpet Feline Digestive Enzymes are derived exclusivley from plant sources
is a powder that aids in digestion, helps control stool odor, diarrhea, bad breath, hairballs and sluggish appetite. Proper nutrient absorption results in healthier animals, shiny coats and aids in pancreas, kidney and liver function"

http://www.goodpet.com/dogs/digestive-support/feline-digestive-enzymes-4-oz/

bought it on Amazon, got good reviews:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00028OZJ2/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20
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One of my civvies is always constipated. She and/or the other civvie throws up a lot too. I was trying Fortiflora, but I've read negative comments re Fortiflora on the forum. A pet store sold me NaturVet Digestive Enzymes Plus Probiotic. Anyone heard of that? I added a little to their food this evening. Not to Yum's.
 
Phoebes said:
She has all of these. Her stools are not like that all the time but yesterday I belive was a flareup and she had 2 that were grey, one loose, that ran us out of the house.
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My mother had to take pancreatic enzymes with meals. Poor Phoebe. I hope you can get her feeling better.
 
Phoebes said:
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Is this what your looking for @Marje and Gracie
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No...that is just standard labwork and it looks like it's through Antech as they are the only ones that do the Precision PSL. They developed this t st to be competitive with IDEXX regarding the specfPL but the Precision PSL is not as good as the specfPL. Gracie's was always high and she never once and pancreatitis. It's can be affected by anythingngoing on in adjacent organs.

Your vet would have to call Texas A&M and get the pricing and info for how to send in the test although if he/she has an account with TAMU, all the info is online. It's not a routine test that Antech or IDEXX can run and you can't tell from regular labs if a cat has EPI.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
No...that is just standard labwork and it looks like it's through Antech as they are the only ones that do the Precision PSL. They developed this t st to be competitive with IDEXX regarding the specfPL but the Precision PSL is not as good as the specfPL. Gracie's was always high and she never once and pancreatitis. It's can be affected by anythingngoing on in adjacent organs.

Your vet would have to call Texas A&M and get the pricing and info for how to send in the test although if he/she has an account with TAMU, all the info is online. It's not a routine test that Antech or IDEXX can run and you can't tell from regular labs if a cat has EPI.
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OK thank you will get my vet to price it.
 
MJW said:
One of my civvies is always constipated. She and/or the other civvie throws up a lot too. I was trying Fortiflora, but I've read negative comments re Fortiflora on the forum. A pet store sold me NaturVet Digestive Enzymes Plus Probiotic. Anyone heard of that? I added a little to their food this evening. Not to Yum's.
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Have you tried adding egg yolk powder to the food? Are they hair balls or bile or food?
http://www.foodfurlife.com/best-manage-hairballs.html
 
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Susan G & Jimmy G said:
Have you tried adding egg yolk powder to the food? Are they hair balls or bile or food?
http://www.foodfurlife.com/best-manage-hairballs.html
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Thanks for this link. One of my civvies, possibly both, have a big hairball problem. They throw up a lot---although sometimes without hairballs. Treats with petroleum jelly haven't helped. I've been mixing primal freeze dried raw into their fancy feast for 2 days. That might be helping the constipation of the one civvie. Not sure yet. Too soon to tell for the vomiting. Looks like I will make some hard boiled eggs today.
 
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