5/30 Lucian's update

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So we're back to chasing numbers. ohmygod_smile The 12 hr cycles with a sliding scale worked pretty well for a few days, but then his preshot numbers kept getting higher, so it's back to shooting once he;s over 200, when ever that happens to be. Whenever I raised the dose, he dropped too low and then bounced, starting a continual cycle. I guess I'll have to figure out something else. He just never does the same thing twice. :YMSIGH:

Tomorrow we'll be back on the TID SS.
 
Hey Rach!

No Sue, he wasn't staying under renal threshold, not even close, went over 500 at one point and I won't stand for that. The last few cycles have been well over 3-400. I NEED a schedule, I'm over having my entire life wrapped around his shot time. I love my boy, but I don't know how much longer I can handle this. Straight craziness for 18 months has made me severely depressed. I don't know what else to try. After 3 insulin and still not close to controlled. :YMSIGH:
 
He was generally under the renal threshold before. Maybe when you get some new data, we can figure out some ideas. Can you deal with TID or no?
 
I don't have a choice, I'll shoot when he needs it. I guess I have to keep a sliding scale, kinda, and shoot when he needs it, like before.

I tried to put him on a schedule because 'I' need it desperately! Not being able to plan anything or go anywhere has really caused problems in my life. My son is really p'o'd because I have had to turn him down several times when he wanted me to go to dinner or something with them, but I can't because I never know when Lucian will need his shot. I don't know what I'll do next year, I WAS planning a trip to Scotland after I get my settlement. It will be the one time in my life I'll be able to go to where my ancestors came from, but what do I do with Lucian? Even the vet isn't going to shoot him 3 times a day. And I don't want him kept in a cage for a week. I just don't know what to do with him. :cry:

On top of all the other mental stress, I completely forgot to give him his last shot. ohmygod_smile Was apparent when I got a 479 @ +6. ohmygod_smile I shouldn't have written it in his SS until AFTER I shot. I wrote it in and then later didn't remember whether or not I had given it. I didn't. :cry:
 
Is there a responsible science minded high school student around that you might train? That would give you some time, even if they only shot for you once daily. And then the possibility of longer term catsitting for you. Sometimes they need to get community service hours and will even volunteer their time.

He is pretty unpredictable but he does seem to stay in decent ranges on TID. And that was your initial goal - to find an insulin that would stop the crashing and bouncing and keep him in decent numbers. It has just, unfortunately taken over your life, especially with his feeding schedule. I can't remember - have you tried an automatic feeder for overnight feedings? Or even some daytime relief?
 
I've tried leaving out frozen food and made baked food, which worked about a week before he refused to eat it. I'm up every 2-3 hrs to feed, he refuses food that is left out. I'm sure, if there was no one here, he'd eat left overs before he'd go hungry. But with me here, he knows he doesn't have to, he just pitches a fit until I give him fresh. He would wake me even if he he did eat leftovers, he'd wake me to put him back on the bed. That's not even the issue, it's the lack of schedule and not being able to plan anything.

I don't know any teens or anyone for that matter and I can't see anyone, of any age, getting up at 2-3-4 in the morning to shoot him when I'm gone. Pet sitters don't stay 24/7 either. If he's not on a schedule, I can't go anywhere or do anything. I guess I'll give it a few weeks and try again. Maybe it'll work next time. Maybe there isn't any insulin that will work for him as it's designed to. He IS Lucian after all. :roll: He's never done anything the way he was supposed to.

Others want to get their cats OTJ, I just want a 12 hr schedule under renal threshold! Guess that's too much to ask, with Lucian. :cry:
 
Pet sitters don't stay but house sitters do. Do you have a college nearby maybe? I bet some science students would love to house sit and help with Lucian while you are gone. Might have to pays some extra considering all the extra stuff but a vacation for you would do wonders I bet. If no colleges...how about vet techs?
 
I'd need someone to stay here, vet tech has to work. Might find a college kid that can stay, may even have some in my building. I'd have to check with the property manager, she'll help me out in any way she can. We have a lot of seminary students here, I'd trust them more than the usual college kid. I'm friends with a young couple across the hall, that I know would take care of him, if he just had a schedule. I'm hoping he'll adjust and maybe by then he'll be on a schedule.

I love my boy. He's almost 16 and I've had him since he was 4 months old. I am so angry with myself, because I'm starting to resent him and that breaks my heart. But I find it hard to believe that I'm the only one that ever felt that way, but I bet few would admit it.
 
You are absolutely not the only one who has felt resentful, and overwhelmed and just tired. I remember having to put a big planned vacation on hold because Oliver was newly diabetic. And for a few minutes or maybe a few hours or probably a few days, I sure wished I didn't have that responsibility.

Hopefully you can get him on a decent schedule and things won't seem so overwhelming. ((Deb))
 
Thanks Sue, I'm so tired of beating myself up over this. Not a day goes by that I don't go into tears out of shear frustration. After 18 months of it, I don't know how much more I can handle.

He's 379 @ +10 tonight. I'm almost ready to go back to the Levemir and see if it makes a difference. With him, it's like he gets immune to his insulin. Except for Lantus, it NEVER worked. But the Lev worked for a few months, to the point that we were whispering 'OTJ' when he wasn't around. ;-) Then BAM! it started acting just like the PZI is now, higher preshots, no control. I don't get it. I may give him a few more days and if he doesn't come back down, try the Lev again.
 
You're not alone. I resented my sweet girl at times. I loved her absolutely but having to always come right home, get up early on days off, find ways to test at nadir, etcetera etcetera was more than I signed on for. I would never choose to not have had her in my life...but I definitely know how you feel.
 
Thanks Rachel, I know what you mean. Sometimes you just want to pull your hair out from sheer frustration. Like tonight, Lucian's on an 8hr cycle. :YMSIGH:
 
Hi Deb. I have been reading all your posts and studying your spreadsheets for a long time now. I have complete admiration for your care, commitment and tenacity. Lucian is so lucky to have you while he is battling this horrible, horrible disease. Lucian certainly did not sign up for this and neither did you. I can certainly understand where you are coming from.

As a newbie, I feel guilty for feeling the same way as you do, but I do. I am especially feeling guilty when I see all the veterans who are involved in this forum, like you, who care for diabetic kitty's for many years, who deal with very complex issues and those who care for multiple diabetic cats. I think about how can you all continue to care for your kitties, all the while helping others? As I read and read, I am amazed of all what you do. I wonder when do you find the time to sleep? I am so very tired and can't imagine how you all feel especially after 18 months.

It makes me mad too because I can't go out and do the things that I love to do like hike, go on backpacking trips, bike, volunteer, visit friends, etc. I get frustrated because no matter what I do, I can't seem to make him better. A few weeks ago, I was at my niece's graduation and in the middle of the ceremony, I had to borrow my son-in-law's truck to go home early because I realized that I forgot to leave food out for Merlin. He probably would have lived yet I felt I needed to go home. Yesterday, I went to an expo in Prescott, AZ which is 75 minutes away. If I would have received a low +4 number, I would have stayed home. I hate that this disease (not Merlin) is tying me down to this house. But then every once in a while, I get a glimmer of hope, something that might seem little to others outside this forum; like walking on his toes, a good AMPS number, a good nadir and of course the ultimate hope that maybe one day Merlin too, would get that "OTJ" next to his post. We all probably know that this is unlikely to some kitties and probably Merlin too, so our goal becomes wanting to make them more comfortable with whatever little time we have with them.

With all that said Deb, you do need to find time for yourself. This is for your health, sanity and for Lucian. It may be something little like picking a day where you feel comfortable and just skip testing all together (except for pre-shot time) or maybe just test once. A weekend retreat probably sounds completely impossible at this time but maybe there is someone out there that would be willing to watch over Lucian. Maybe checking with a high school or technical school to find a student that is interested in being a vet tech. I see there are quite a few vet tech schools in NC like Miller Motte Technical school. They have 17 locations in NC & TN and they have online classes so maybe you can call them to see if they can suggest someone that is near you. I also found this link that provides a list of vet tech schools in NC: http://www.citytowninfo.com/employment/ ... h-carolina. Maybe there is a vet tech at your own veterinary office that would be interested or they might have a responsible friend that would be interested.

I recently was gone for four days and my husband cared for Merlin. Before my trip, he wanted nothing to do with the testing, shots, etc. He didn't want to know what I did until two days before I left. I was so nervous. I knew that he was not going to do everything the way I did it but then I resigned my self to think that Merlin was going to be okay and live through it. I called my husband to check on the numbers and doses. I was able to check out his spreadsheet as he updated it. I actually enjoyed myself the last two days. Everything turned out okay.

I wish I could give you a magical solution to make you feel better. Of course there are choices on how we handle this disease, but I think we all know that we wouldn't choose any other direction or do anything different than what we are doing today. Know that Lucian is doing well today because of all your care in the past 18 months.
 
Thank you Cindi, I appreciate your kindness. Our vet has a tech that does 'in home' care, for vacations etc, but she only comes twice a day. That's the thing, gotta get him on a 12 hr schedule that doesn't have his pre shots sky high. He was doing ok for a few days, then............. I'm back to chasing his numbers, whether it be 8, 9, 10...hrs makes no difference. Maybe if I do it for a while again, he might be able to stick with it next time. I dunno, I'm at a complete loss. I'll see what happens and decide whether I need to go back to the Levemir. It's so touch and go with him. :YMSIGH:
 
Hi Deb - I have a friend in WF that is kitty friendly. Not sure if she would be comfortable doing shots, but she may be able to help you out in a pinch. I'll give her a call and see if she's okay if I share her number.

Also looking for someone with BCP experience to help someone in Scotland. Think you might be able to help him?
 
Hey Lu, guess it would depend on what he needed. You know Lucian isn't like any other cat. That kind of limits me on the advice giving, ya know?
 
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