5.28 Jane - not so pretty in pink/OTJ trial

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Is Wednesday the last post you have?
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You have a lot of experienced folks watching so they will be along soon no doubt...gonna look at your SS again brb..
wow...Jane seems very sensitive to karo....I am out of my league here...can't figure out her SS for the life of me....
so I am hoping someone comes along very soon. HUGS! (I am only qualified to give hugs....LOL)
 
I'm inclined to say go back to a fat 0 but I also want to encourage you to wait until Jill or one of the very experienced members has a chance to take a look at Jane's SS. She's so sensitive to insulin that it's hard to know exactly what to do.
 
Get in touch with Jojo, Jill or those who have helped you--What a great momma bean you are & what a lucky cat that Jane is--Beautiful too!
 
Oh my....Your spreadsheet is baffleing! I'll admit it is rather strange. Normally they say to give insulin as long as you can...which means either on the smallest dose (a drop) numbers go below 50, or the numbers stay below 120 consistantly (a few outliers are allowed) and you can shoot less insulin. That's pretty much where you are (unless you think waving the insulin bottle over her head will have some effect :lol: ) yet you still have "diabetic numbers".

Don't jump on me, but I have to ask the obvious............. :? Are you sure you giving 0.1U of insulin, have the proper syringes etc...? I'm not saying your an idiot I mean a simple explaination would be that you are actually giving .5U or more if you have the wrong syringes or are measuring the dose wrong. It wouldn't be the first time it has happened to someone.

Sorry Nicole but your first dose is a good example. Nicole was ready to begin lantus and planned a starting dose of .5U after giving the shot she began to question what she had done and posted on health. She asked if it was .5U when she filled the syringe to the "first mark". Seemed logical with the 1/2 unit markings the first small mark is .5U, but Nicole was reffering to the first numbered mark on the syringe which was 5U! needless to say it was a long night, and lots of low numbers (which Nicole handled courageously!)

My second thought would be extreme case of bouncing. Being over sensitive to insulin and going low then liver kicks in and BOOM high numbers, in that case I would try seeing if without insulin the numbers will come back down once the liver is calmed, which appears to be what you are trying now.

The only other suggestion would be to try a different insulin or perhaps another cartridge. Maybe it's just an oversensitivity (first for everything :roll: ) or a defective package you got.

I hope it straightens out soon.
 
Good questions all -- and I don't blame you for asking!

Sadly though, our oldest boy is a type 1, dx 13 years ago. So I'm wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy familiar with doses - though with him, it's a basal rate and boluses for carbs in meals. This is my rendering of what I'm giving as a "fat zero". http://s82.photobucket.com/albums/j265/ ... atzero.jpg and that's with the lowest dose syringe - the .3cc.
By her rock-bottom numbers, you'd think she'd be OTJ now - but holding steady in the pink range.
 
Yup! I shot that fat O for a long time too! The reason I couldn't get him off it was cause he was a crack addict :twisted: I was shooting that .1U just to deal with the 20-something% to much carbs!

Have you though about trying a different insulin or another package. I'm just curious as to maybe it's an issue with the insulin itself. The only other possibility is a "rubber cat" that will just bounce to high heaven every chance she gets! Maybe just keep testing for a few days and see if it levels out on it's own without insulin.

I see Jane is HyperT? I#m sure that has an effect on things but i don't know exactly how. Other than those ugly pinks etc. How is she (whole cat wise)?
 
did you draw that lovely picture of a pe syringe? try a skinny 0, bottom of that black line. But , like I said. I would wait it out til at least tomorrow AM unless she starts going high 4 or 500
 
hi kris. the last time jojo and i talked about jane she mentioned shooting a fat zero... as needed. that means, throw away the clock. you'll be on janey's schedule. i'll try to get in touch with jojo again today. you try, too. that way at least one of us should be able to get through to her...
 
dian and wheezer said:
did you draw that lovely picture of a pe syringe? try a skinny 0, bottom of that black line. But , like I said. I would wait it out til at least tomorrow AM unless she starts going high 4 or 500
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why yes, i did. you smarta$$. still got that lighthouse on your porch wall? :lol: :lol:
 
yep, I agree. that's a fat 0 -- so you can still give the skinny zero and 1/2 that dose -- it may sound crazy but at least you know you've still got the option of lowering the dose even further.

I'm curious what Jojo will say... but it looks like she's just gonna need a liiiitle more .

(((Kris and Jane)))
 
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