5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 163 @ +2, 77 @ +3 PMPS 516 Update!

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I don't know what's going on, but it was nice to see a pink number this AM.

I gave her SQ fluids (less than 150 ml, probably around 120 ml?) before going to bed last night (around +6). Figured that would make her feel better and I just got my fresh bags. The specialty vet said about 2 times a week would probably be good, maybe helpful with her infection.

She ate a decent breakfast this AM. Needed encouragement to finish, but I never even had to resort to chicken dust, just spoon feeding. Then she had a second breakfast a short time later (meaning I had to open another can so she could have a different flavor). All told, probably ate nearly 3 Tbsp, unless I'm remembering wrong. Which is pretty awesome, since my goal is to get her to eat around 2 Tbsp if possible.

Negative for ketones this AM.

Yesterday
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke?

This is a much better Kasha report.
I think the fluids can lower the numbers but hopefully this is a new trend for her. Keep eating little girl. cat_pet_icon
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke? 254 @ +1.4

I think fluids can lower numbers too, but it's been nearly 8 hours since she got her fluids and she's dropping like a stone... So much for getting to work early - I have to watch this for a while...
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke? 254 @ +1.4

Sorry about being late for work but I like this. You may want to try feeding a little bit since this is a pretty big drop and you know how she likes to bounce. :roll:
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke? 254 @ +1.4

She's been eating on and off all morning (ok, all nearly 2 hours of morning so far). She just ate some chicken don't know how much room she has left in her... might try a little more canned LC.
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke? 254 @ +1.4

This is nice. Shhh, let's not let her hear too much.....just kidding. Sounds like she feels better. I hope this is a turning point. Hope you have a better day today Krys. Hugs :YMHUG:
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 Fluke? 254 @ +1.4

Thanks Paige and Miriam. What a rollercoaster! I used to love rollercoasters until now - LOL...

Her +2 is 163... Better send in that email saying I won't be at work for for a while!
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2

Krys --

Remember what we said about how numbers may drop once the AB kicks in. Please keep an eye on Kasha's numbers. I might even put some gravy on her food at this point. There's a good amount of momentum behind this drop and it's early in the cycle. It will help to slow things down. Don't feed too much. Just a few bites at a time.

With a 200 point drop over a 2 hour period, I think you're going to see Kasha bounce.
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2

Ah Sienne, from your words to Kasha's lips (such as they are)... I had just told her that it looked like she was going to get some MC food... So... I gave her about 1 tsp LC with some gravy/food from FF Elegant Entrees... I use these as my medium carb foods because even though on the charts some look to be around 10% carbs, I noticed early on that they always raise her BG after eating... And she loves them.
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2

Hi Kris,
First of all..
:YMHUG: Big Hugs to you! You have been really going through some challenges lately. My condolences with your loss of big cat. I looked at the pictures and those eyes are mezmorizing. I hope your healing process has been somewhat peaceful. Another hug.... :YMHUG:

I apologize for not answering about the fluids. Im guessing others have done so since you asked (yes, I did get the pm..you did do it right...my bad for not answering). Fluids CAN lower numbers. I dont think 8hrs later, its related to the fluids tho. So that is good news, eh? :thumbup I dont usually see much of a drop from Latte's fluids unless there is already momentum...mainly because I give just 50ml/day. On occassions when I give more at a random time I can notice a slight drop. I think if you can give it mid cycle that is ideal. 150ml is a lot, tho not unreasonable depending on Kasha's size. I would however, check back with the vet and ask about doing less, more frequently. This will keep hydration more even.

Im sorry you had to see what you did on the meter yesterday. it really is a sinking feeling in the gut...much more helpless than low numbers for sure. I hope today's numbers are giving you some renewed hope. And, as the infection clears, I bet you will see continued improvement.

hang in there! You really are doing a GREAT job!
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2

Krys - after your post last night I really feel your pain. So many of my friends and co-workers just don't understand the connection that we have with our furbabies. This message board was a saviour for me. And I continue to stay around because I get that warm and fuzzy feeling communicating and helping others that feel the same as I do. To my dismay no one ever understood the emotions that I feel for all animals and yet not feel that way with humans. :roll: We really do care about everyone elses babies here, and most of us have been in the same exact shoes at some point or another.

Hang in there-----like Hillary said----you can always come here to vent, cry, ask for support etc. I am still amazed and the support that this board gives.
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2, 77 @ +3

I can't believe after yesterday that I'm panicking today about this drop... I just gave her some higher carb (don't even ask, I'm too frazzled to figure out percentages) with a drop of Karo. Glad I stayed home to watch...

BTW, Kasha is a 10 lb girl. Someone told me that's pretty big, but it's also down from her high weight of around 14 - 15 lbs. 10 lbs and some odd ounces are probably perfect for her frame though (she was a chunk most of her life, no matter what I fed - hard to regulate amounts with 3 or 4 cats). So, she looks pretty good at that weight. The vet recommended 100 - 200 ml SQ 2 - 3 times a week, or more (but after seeing Big Cat's x-Rays where he was full of fluids, I'm a little more afraid of fluids right now, even though I know that's a totally different situation). She doesn't totally need them yet, but she has borderline kidney issues and I can tell when she doesn't feel that great - tries to drink a lot and the fluids really do seem to help. And it's cool, cuz a few years ago, the vet thought I'd never be able to do them myself since Kasha was - er - rather difficult.

Time to check her again... Ok 73 @ +3. 3, a little more gravy...

If anyone is a little shocked by the 77 @ +3, you should know that my heart actually stopped because I initially read it upside down and just for a heartbeat (which I didn't have at that moment), I thought it said "11". OMG... Almost had to do CPR on myself!
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2, 77 @ +3

Making sure the meter is not upside down is a critical part of FD management (lol)!!

You're handling this beautifully. I would test in 20 min. after your +3. This is early in the cycle and testing an hour from now may leave Kasha lower than you'd like. If you can keep the surf going at around this level, that would be ideal. You will need to test every 20 min. or so and feed a little bit at each test. If numbers keep dropping, keep feeding MC/HC. Once Kasha is surfing, LC may be fine. You will need to get 2 consecutive tests where Kasha is surfing or rising. Then test every 30 min. and get 2 consecutive tests with stable numbers. Numbers can bobble around as the food wears off - that's why you need to make sure the numbers don't start dropping again.
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 254 @ +1.4, 163 @ +2, 77 @ +3

Well, I've been doing the 20 min testing and a little higher carb with gravy at each test... About to check again:

73 @ +3. 3
78 @ +3.6...
 
Re: 5/27 Kasha AMPS 372 163 @ +2, 77 @ +3, 116 @ +4

Ok - numbers are rising. I'll stick around and monitor for the next hour or so to be sure. Whew... Now I can sit back and have my breakfast and some tea...
 
Ok - this is a bounce, right? I mean, I know it's supposed to be, but it seems like with Kasha you never know.

Got the results back from her urine culture - clear! Yay. So... we can now begin the follow-up treatment for her kidney infection. And apparently the Baytril was working, so we stay on that for another 4 weeks to be sure. Yes - today I just gave her last Baytril from the original prescription. And now 28 more to go. But, she is still very much into her pill pockets, so it was another easy pilling day. I even gave her some probiotics in another pill pocket.

After I took the new prescription out to my car, I can't believe I had the presence of mind to actually check the pills. Oh, it was Baytril, all right. The purple Baytril. The ones that apparently taste really bad... So, I went back inside and mentioned that I'd had the brown Baytril taste tabs before. Fran, at the reception desk (who's seen me more times lately than I can count) went to check to see if there were any of the taste tabs left. Thankfully, there were and she swapped out the purple ones for the brown flavored ones. I can only hide so much in a pill pocket.

The other reason I went to the vet office today (and the reason I can't believe I noticed the pill color) was to pick up Big Cat's ashes, and a card with his footprint. I think there may be some fur in there too, but I haven't been able to bring myself to look yet. Previous kitty cremains I have came in sturdy plastic boxes. However, Big Cat's came in the most gorgeous carved wooden box. It' s beautiful. Nothing less would be worthy of my gorgeous boy. It's 1 week today - 7:40 pm last Thurs (actually, I think it was a little later). I can still imagine the feel of his fur when I kissed him goodbye... It's been a tough week.
 
((Krys))
It really has been a tough week for you! Hopefully, things are moving in a better direction and it's wonderful that Big Cat came home in a way that befits him.

You bet that PMPS is a bounce -- and an impressive bounce. Kasha is very used to being in high numbers. Her liver is going to need to extra homework in Liver Training School (LTS). Hopefully, she'll start seeing better numbers.

Is the vet planning on re-running a urine culture? I believe that it's important to get another culture done about 2 weeks after the ABs are done. I'm hoping that someone who's had a kitty go through a UTI will jump in but I think you need the repeat since the ABs can effect the results. It's a way to make sure nothing is still growing.
 
Oh Krys - reading about Big Cat brought sweet, sorrowful tears. Thank you for sharing as we can relate & tell how much you love the Big guy. And, I agree - what a week. Hope you get some solid rest this weekend. Give Kasha a hug for us. Take care.
 
My instructions from the Internal Med vet were to do another culture about a week after completing the ABs... and don't worry - I have every intention of checking in to make sure she's still clear. But for her kidney infection, there's not a good way to know for sure that it's clear, other than watching her numbers, her attitude, etc. I'm not up to dragging her out for another ultrasound any time soon. Apparently testing clear for a UTI does not necessarily indicate that a kidney infection is clear (obviously, since Kasha tested clear but we're still treating her for the kidney infection for the next 4 weeks).

Sigh. I'm at least glad we've got the culture done and have our ABs for the time being.
 
you have really had a time of it. :sad: It looks like Kasha might be turning a corner, though, so she's trying to help cheer you up.
 
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