5/12 Billie PMPS 275 too much lunch meat?

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Deanna & Billie

Deanna & Billie

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Billie's appy has been iffy despite being on ondansetron. She is changing her mind about her food every day and I am having a hard time keeping up. I feel like I have tried one of every LC option the pet store carries. Yesterday, Weruva lamburgini was a big hit. Today, she won't touch it. She has been eating Fancy Feast on and off today although not as much as I'd like her to.

On the other hand, maybe it's wrong to say her appy has been iffy...because she ate almost three slices of turkey lunch meat a couple hours ago :eek: Should I be worried about that?? I gave her one slice mixed in with FF and she devoured it. I had a couple other slices set out for myself to make a wrap, and I left them unattended for a few minutes, thinking that a cat who had barely touched her food all day wasn't going to be stealing any turkey. I came back, and they were nearly gone!! That's something my GA yellow lab would have done.

I am nervous about the sodium content. I couldn't find low sodium turkey so I got the regular stuff, and now I'm paranoid that it was too much sodium at once and it's going to upset her system. She has been drinking more water than usual tonight, which makes sense. Otherwise, she's acting fine. She's chilling on the couch in front of the AC. Am I being weird or should I be worried? Have any other kitties eaten that much lunch meat at once?

Crazy amounts of lunch meat aside, I am trying to get her to the vet for the appy issues/nausea...although now I am wondering if nausea is really the problem, because I wouldn't expect a very nauseous cat to down that much turkey...but something is up. Her vet is booked all week which has never been the case before, so I'm trying to see if he will let me just pop over with her to run a quick fPL. If her number is much higher, that may make me think that the picky appy is pancreatitis related, and maybe she needs more ondansetron or additional support meds. If her number is the same, that will make me think something else is up in the IBD/lymphoma direction and I'll go from there, probably starting with metronidazole like the IM vet suggested.

I hope everyone is doing well. Sending vines to all the kitties and beans needing vines.
 
sounds like mine.... I practically have to open a new can every meal..... and only occasionally does she partake a second time later on.
very picky.
I did observe one thing this last month.... when we had this ibd flare.... she would dig in and start eating.... and then stop.... like it was
cramping her tummy.
don't feel too bad about lunch meat....
your turkey is probably much better than my giving mine ham. ( her favorite)

we did a full bottle of metronidazole... and I just couldn't tell.
there was also budesonide at the time.... and then we switched to cerenia and gengraff...
so many things going on , she started feeling better than she was, and I have no idea which one or the combo did what.
 
The only concern I would have with the lunch meat is what else is on/in it. Back when we first started this dance, I would give Cinco sliced turkey from a package for his poke treats. I was warned that it might have hidden carbs, so check the label if you were using the packaged kind. Now I only give him the stuff they slice for you at the deli counter. Of course, if that is all she'll eat, then give it to her!!!!!! Eating trumps everything else.

I hope you can get her into the vet and maybe get some answers. Meanwhile, appy and anti-finicky vines headed your way. BTW, I've also been known to have 6-7 open cans of cat food at any given time, trying to find something Minka will eat!!! She's not big on leftovers, either.
 
Thanks Rhiannon and Tricia!! I actually thought of both of you as I was going through half a dozen cans trying to find the flavor of the day!

@rhiannon and shadow Billie does that sometimes too. She will dig in for a bit then back off. I can't tell if that's part of her normal grazing habits or if her stomach is bothering her. Billie does love ham too! I'm glad that what you are doing is helping Shadow. I suppose it doesn't matter which thing or combination of things is making her feel better, as long as she is feeling better. My vet thinks that we should only introduce one new med at a time to see what makes the difference, but I just want Billie to feel better and eat well.

@Tricia & Cinco I was thinking I could feed ten cats with all the food I am throwing out these days!!! Brooklyn takes care of a lot of it, but there's no way she can (or should, even if she can...) eat it all. I am thinking maybe I can find a feral colony and save it in tupperware to give those kitties. I just double checked the turkey package and there aren't too many ingredients hiding in it...just a ton of salt. Yikes. But Billie seems okay so far. I think I'm just on edge about her and my mind figured, might as well panic about lunch meat.

She's eating some FF turkey now which is good news. I think overall, she is getting enough to eat every day. It's just taking some work.
 
Appy and Vetty vines. Maybe if you leave a message to have your vet call you can talk him into fitting you in?
 
I hope Billie's appy has picked up again. Trix recently did that "dig in then suddenly stop" thing, too, which is not her usual pattern when her belly hurts. I was suspecting her mouth rather than her belly. Trix really needs a dental, but she can't have one because her kidneys are not in good enough shape to tolerate the anesthesia. I did another round of Zenniquin (antibiotic), and within a day that odd eating thing stopped. She's been off the AB now for a couple weeks and she's eating like a little horse again. Could Billie have a bad tooth, or maybe a mouth sore?

Also, if it's p-titis, my vetty is saying that now they suspect that about 50% of all p-titis cases are caused by bacteria, so an AB can actually be helpful. When Trix's p-titis flared early this year, the Zenniquin was a a miracle for her - she started feeling better after just one dose.

Appy vines coming you way!
 
Amy&TrixieCat said:
I hope Billie's appy has picked up again. Trix recently did that "dig in then suddenly stop" thing, too, which is not her usual pattern

I think that is quite common with p'itis. That is why small amounts more often work best. If they eat too much at a time it hurts so then they don't feel well and associate that with eating..

I hope Billie feels better this morning.
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Thanks @Amy&TrixieCat ! I was wondering about her mouth too, but the vet said her teeth look good. She needed a dental with 5 extractions about a year ago so I am always paranoid about her teeth. That's interesting about the AB! I think I am starting her on a week's trial of metronidazole today. Would that help like the Zeniquin? I know different ABs work differently.

The vet really can't squeeze her in, I guess, but said that he wouldn't necessarily treat any differently if her fPL came back higher or the same. He thinks the metronidazole is a decent next step for pancreatitis and/or suspected IBD. He also said he'd add an appetite stimulant if the metronidazole doesn't make a difference, and he is also in favor of trying budesonide, although the IM vet disagreed and did not want to try a steroid without a biopsy.
 
I don't know if the metronidazole would work like the Zeniquin...my other kitties have had metronidazole but Trix has never had it. Trix also doesn't have IBD, so metronidazole very well could be a better choice for Billie since it is geared towards gut issues.

More appy vines are coming!
 
[QUOTE="Deanna & Billie, post: 1420622,

The vet really can't squeeze her in, I guess, but said that he wouldn't necessarily treat any differently if her fPL came back higher or the same. He thinks the metronidazole is a decent next step for pancreatitis and/or suspected IBD. He also said he'd add an appetite stimulant if the metronidazole doesn't make a difference, and he is also in favor of trying budesonide, although the IM vet disagreed and did not want to try a steroid without a biopsy.[/QUOTE]

I wouldn't treat with budesonide without a biopsy after reading it might make diagnosis difficult like it would with prednisolone. I'd try the metronidazole as it has been known to help with IBD and won't interfere with any future test results. I agree with your vet that a higher fPL wouldn't change treatment. It would help you know why she doesn't feel better but you still wouldn't know what disease the pancreatitis is secondary to. Did you ask about zenequin? Using an appetite stimulant is something I did with Max early on but realized that it was needed only because he was not getting his nausea addressed completely. If Billie eats enough to maintain her weight I wouldn't add one. I prefer cyproheptadine but others like mirtazapine. Mirtazapine has the potential for some serious side effects if your cat reacts badly and cyproheptadine is what is given for serotonin syndrome. Just my thoughts FWIW.
 
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