4/9 Boomer Trial Day #2, PM - 80

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Traci and Boomer

Traci and Boomer

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Disappointed would be an understatement. :YMSIGH:
My only hope is that my Mom's cat Francis did the same thing - he gave her blues 90% of the time but if she gave him one DROP of insulin he'd be down below 50 within 3 hours. She didn't know what to do. The board told her to not shoot any more and he's OTJ. This is why I need to know what the range of "normal" is. If he's over 120 tonight I could shoot and I'll be around to test at +6. nailbite_smile
 
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Hang in there, fingers and paws crossed. Have you tried late cycle snacks? Around +8 or +8.5? It has been helping bring Tess's AMPS numbers down.
 
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He has an autofeeder set for +9. The thing is that he doesn't always eat. Even though he's hungry. It's very weird.

Also- he puked this morning but it was a "good" puke because there was a huge piece of plastic in it meaning he wasn't sick, he just got into something! Bad boy! I thought all of my plastic bags were put away. Apparently not.
 
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Oh poor Boomer and the pukus. Maybe his numbers will come down now that he got that out of his system. I know that during the trial is it still okay to have blues. Lydia and Basil had many blue days but still made it. Hang in there. I am sure Libby or someone will drop by today.....Most times they ask to feed a little meal and test a few hours later. See if Mr P kicks in to help lower the BG.
 
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We'll blame that on the pukus right Boomer? Lets bring that number down so everyone can see you in action.
 
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Are you around to get a +3 or a +4? Chances are that after Boomer eats, his pancreas will kick in and bring his numbers back down. The stress of puking up that plastic may have been what bumped up his numbers so give things a chance to settle.
 
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Thanks for the positivity. I have none. It would be nice to think the puke caused his blue.

And with regard to getting a +3 or +4, I can't because I am at work. Last night I tested him at +3 and he raised a few points from the PM, another negative sign.
 
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Donovan threw me a 158 at AM+9 yesterday :shock:. He was unsupervised earlier in the day, so it's possible he found some "candy" :roll:. He refused to talk about it. But his PMBG was better (96), and this morning was 86 after 4 previous days of AM blues, so.... damned if I know. As long as he doesn't stay high blues and continues to drift to green on his own, we'll go with it.
 
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Copied from the Pets Wikipedia (footnote markers removed)

According to this - what range am I looking for, 100-180? A 180 is ok? That seems high. Is this correct?

40-130: Non-diabetic range (usually unsafe to aim for when on insulin, unless your control is very good). These numbers, when not giving insulin, are very good news.

61-124: This is an average non-diabetic cat's level, but leaves little margin of safety for a diabetic on insulin. Don't aim for this range, but don't panic if you see it, either. If the number is not falling, it's healthy.

90: A commonly cited minimum safe value for the lowest blood sugar of the day

140: According to the American Association of Clinical Endocrinologists (AACE), threshold above which organ and pancreatic damage may begin.

100-180 Commonly used target range for diabetics, for as much of the time as possible.
 
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Traci and Boomer said:
61-124: This is an average non-diabetic cat's level,
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I believe it to be that since Boomer is no longer getting any insulin then you are aiming for the non-diabetic ranges.
 
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Sending Hugs for Day 2 Tracy.
It's as if every stage seems to be hard then the last.
Going up the dosing ladder, down the ladder, and off the ladder.

Tonight when you get home you will get some more checks and
for now lets blame the"good" plastic pukus. :)
 
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Boomer will be ok... pretty sure I warned you to get treats for yourself because he seemed like a bit of a wanderer, make that happen if you haven't already!.. I didn't expect him to be one of those "easy" (hahahahahaha I'm funny) OTJs where he just hangs out in the greens all the time..

Evil plastic bag barfs!
 
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Is it possible for you to get a +4 tonight? I found with Raja that if I fed her at +8 her numbers would drop in that 4 hour gap between snacks. The BGs fluctuate normally during the day but we just have to monitor the action of the pancreas a few hours after eating. He should be dropping after 3 or 4 hours....
Go Boomer!! :mrgreen:
 
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I swear, you guys are so nice. Thank you. I'm thinking I need a shrink just to deal with THIS issue. It wouldn't be so bad if the BF didn't have his pet troubles too OR he didn't live so far from me. I feel like everything is a struggle. It's been this way for 5 months - since Boomer was diagnosed. We live 40 minutes apart from each other and both have pets who need attention. It's awful and it seems unending. His first dog died in November after MONTHS of hell. Now his second dog is terminal and his entire life is on hold. This dog is the "favorite" so his grief will be worse when she dies than the last one. My schedule is wrapped around Boomer's shots and his dog. I am not exaggerating at all. I want the relationship - I adore him. He's a great guy. I don't want his dog to die just so we can be together, ya know? Any positive thoughts you can spare for us would be hugely appreciated.
This is us at a wedding last October.
This is his 15 year old drooler, Princess
 

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Re: 4/9 Boomer Trial Day #2, AM = 134

traci I understand ... I'm sure all of us had to put our lives on "hold" at least for awhile while trying to deal with this diagnosis. If you have made it this far, you can make it just a little longer and I know boomer will be OTJ. Just a few more weeks and you'll be able to get back to spending more time with your BF while he is dealing with his sick pup. You guys will get there ... boomer's doing so good!

oh, and you guys make a cute couple! and the pup is so cute!
 
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Randi & Max said:
It's as if every stage seems to be hard then the last.
Going up the dosing ladder, down the ladder, and off the ladder.
:)
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:lol: :lol: :lol:

We need an anti-jinx emoticon. Get your pics ready, gonna PM you my email addy.

ETA: any BG update?
 
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You need to take a few deep breaths and not worry about every individual number. Trust me, I KNOW how hard that is after all you and Boomer have been through. You don't want to panic at a number, this is a trial. Part of the trial is figuring out Boomer's patterns - does it take him 2 hours to come down after food? Or 4? More? What kind of food, and when should we feed it? Is he higher in the morning or at night? What is different then to make him higher? Lots of things to look at before shooting more insulin. So breathe, and let us help you!
 
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D and Libby-

Thank you!!! I am continually AMAZED by how nice everyone here is!

Great turn around from this morning!
Here's the update:

AM- 134
+10.5 - 72
PM - 80
+3 - 74

Plenty of eating going on. I'm feeling more confident now! :mrgreen:
 
Bookmark this thread.. so that when it happens again you can come and look.. read through all the posts.. look at the result..and calm down :).
 
Yeah, I let myself get a little nuts today. I am very lucky to have things turn around in the PM. WHEW. I can't believe I've gotten through two days of the trial. WOW.

Tonight my BF came over and he hooked up my new monitor for me and even took my old huge one with him to get rid of for me! Awww. He helped me test Boomer - I did the poke he did the strip test. Then he wouldn't let me see the number. :lol: We went out to eat and then to where else???? Yup, PetSmart. :roll: I even had my lists with me! I've discovered that Boomer likes the FF chunky turkey and chunky chicken. It's pate but a little chunkier.

Can we review what I'm supposed to do as far as testing? Do I test now at AM and PM when I'd normally give a shot? Should I be spot checking too?
 
Traci - yes you will test when you would normally have given insulin. Instead of listing the numbers as AMPS/PMPS you will put AMBG/PMBG. Be sure to post the AM and PM BG's.

PS - I was so scared during our trial that I would usually get a spot check in the middle of the day. It is not required, but I couldn't help myself :lol:
 
paige is correct. get ambg and pmbg tests. if you get a bloo number... retest in 3-4 hours to see if boomer is bringing himself down.
GOOD LUCK!
 
Wow - so testing like mad isn't necessarily required? I don't have to test him before I go to bed? WOW. Well, ok! So far, so good. Hopefully he won't get blues before I go to work because I won't be able to do a follow up test until I get home much later.

Thanks for all your support today. It's been a rollercoaster.
 
Congrats on Day 2. WHAT a day. You are too, too much.

So here's the deal...I asked all those questions too, and thought them even more often than I asked, and then thought of new one's behind them. There were many, many different answers & versions given. I don't think there is just one... When to test, what's THE number to start worrying??....
I think Libby's explanation in your thread today was great ..to not panic at A number..instead to figure out patterns...that's that's what the trial IS. How long does it take him to come down from food, what kind & when should we feed it, when is he higher/lower and what might make him so? Great advice.

But I hear ya' and feel your angst. You want it all to go well and for him to feel good. (that's the bottom line) ...and is this a sign of anything? You can intellectualize it..but I know I'd feel the same. It's hard to just not worry when it's your baby, I get it.
This trial thing is just more uncharted territory..but we're in it with you & figuring it out as we go...thank goodness with lots of help and support.

Boomer is doing great. I'm SO happy for ya'. We're cheering you guys on....me, Hank & Elvis.


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Way to end the day Boomer :mrgreen:

I worry about those blues we keep hitting during trial too. That's natural when we see a rise. I try to step back and think about (1) its just one number what's the big picture? (3) How's kitteh feeling? (2) If I tested a cat that I hadn't been obsessively watching would I think to give him/her insulin on this number?

As long as our kittehs are feeling good, they are showing us they can lower their numbers on their own, and they are not getting into bad numbers- we are passing this test :-D
 
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