4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192 +2 204 +3 234 +11 335
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Kristin and Abby (GA)
Member Since 2010
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129
Sorry I can't offer any shooting advice...but good luck! I'd be just as confused as you if I had those #s to play with. Congrats on getting through those 20s though; that couldn't have been easy!
Sorry I can't offer any shooting advice...but good luck! I'd be just as confused as you if I had those #s to play with. Congrats on getting through those 20s though; that couldn't have been easy!
Ronnie & Luna
Member Since 2009
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129
you did good.
good luck with the curve.
as a guideline, check this example out from this sticky New to The Group
Learn how YOUR kitty is responding to insulin:
Onset - the length of time before insulin reaches the bloodstream & begins lowering blood glucose
Peak/Nadir - the lowest point in the cycle
Duration - the length of time insulin continues to lower blood glucose
How to do a Curve
Example of a typical curve:
+0 - PreShot number.
+1 - Usually higher than PreShot number because of the last shot wearing off. May see a food spike in this number.
+2 - Often similar to the PreShot number.
+3 - Lower than the PreShot number, onset has started.
+4 - Lower.
+5 - Lower.
+6 - Nadir/Peak (the lowest number of cycle).
+7 - Surf (hang around the nadir number).
+8 - Slight rise.
+9 - Slight rise.
+10 - Rising.
+11 - Rising (may dip around +10 or +11).
+12 - PreShot number.
you did good.
good luck with the curve.
as a guideline, check this example out from this sticky New to The Group
Learn how YOUR kitty is responding to insulin:
Onset - the length of time before insulin reaches the bloodstream & begins lowering blood glucose
Peak/Nadir - the lowest point in the cycle
Duration - the length of time insulin continues to lower blood glucose
How to do a Curve
Example of a typical curve:
+0 - PreShot number.
+1 - Usually higher than PreShot number because of the last shot wearing off. May see a food spike in this number.
+2 - Often similar to the PreShot number.
+3 - Lower than the PreShot number, onset has started.
+4 - Lower.
+5 - Lower.
+6 - Nadir/Peak (the lowest number of cycle).
+7 - Surf (hang around the nadir number).
+8 - Slight rise.
+9 - Slight rise.
+10 - Rising.
+11 - Rising (may dip around +10 or +11).
+12 - PreShot number.
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129
I would have shot the .25u as well. It's pretty low...although no telling how Yemala will react
but it keeps her lantus dose consistent.
Hope you are better today, Renee.
I would have shot the .25u as well. It's pretty low...although no telling how Yemala will react
but it keeps her lantus dose consistent.Hope you are better today, Renee.
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129
I'm a little better, but still having to use codeine to sleep at night. The cough is driving me nuts.
Curve thus far:
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
She simply will NOT be just like all other sugar kitties. :?
She's felt well enough to sleep with me again. It means she's not furious - at the moment. When she's happy and feeling well, she tucks into my arm pit and snuggles so sweetly, and she hasn't done that for more than a week. It's nice to see her do that again.
I'm a little better, but still having to use codeine to sleep at night. The cough is driving me nuts.
Curve thus far:
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
She simply will NOT be just like all other sugar kitties. :?
She's felt well enough to sleep with me again. It means she's not furious - at the moment. When she's happy and feeling well, she tucks into my arm pit and snuggles so sweetly, and she hasn't done that for more than a week. It's nice to see her do that again.
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
The link to your condo from yesterday isn'g working. The board has been having problems with the links. It may work better if you link the "fancy" way so it look's like Yemala's condo from Friday. To do this, click on the URL button above the text box. This inserts code: . inside the first bracket type "=the copy and pasted http info from the previous day's condo" (without the quotes). In between the two sets of brackets, type whatever you want to name the link (e.g., Yesterday's condo). The link will work this way.
I thought I'd asked you this before -- what meter are you using?
The link to your condo from yesterday isn'g working. The board has been having problems with the links. It may work better if you link the "fancy" way so it look's like Yemala's condo from Friday. To do this, click on the URL button above the text box. This inserts code: . inside the first bracket type "=the copy and pasted http info from the previous day's condo" (without the quotes). In between the two sets of brackets, type whatever you want to name the link (e.g., Yesterday's condo). The link will work this way.
I thought I'd asked you this before -- what meter are you using?
Lisa and Do Lou (GA)
Member Since 2010
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
Just want to say Hello I have never posted in your condo before lovely surf for Yemala
Just want to say Hello I have never posted in your condo before lovely surf for Yemala
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
And what would that be like since my girl will not either :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's why we say ECID because they all like to play their own games and do their own dance with FD. ;-)
Seems like the cough always takes the longest to ditch but glad you are better otherwise. Thanks to the person who "invented" codeine!
And what would that be like since my girl will not either :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That's why we say ECID because they all like to play their own games and do their own dance with FD. ;-)
Seems like the cough always takes the longest to ditch but glad you are better otherwise. Thanks to the person who "invented" codeine!
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
Her highest number has been not high, her lowest has not been dangerous. .25 dose seems to work reasonably well for her, at least for now. We'll continue with the curve the rest of the day.
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
Comparatively gorgeous day here. I opened up the door to the screened-in porch, and it's started up the Kitty 500. Mala is basking in some sun and sniffing the breeze and, from time to time, joining in the pile-up of kitties tussling on the living room floor. She's perky, content, interested, and engaged. She's her usual self - good to see.
Her highest number has been not high, her lowest has not been dangerous. .25 dose seems to work reasonably well for her, at least for now. We'll continue with the curve the rest of the day.
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
Comparatively gorgeous day here. I opened up the door to the screened-in porch, and it's started up the Kitty 500. Mala is basking in some sun and sniffing the breeze and, from time to time, joining in the pile-up of kitties tussling on the living room floor. She's perky, content, interested, and engaged. She's her usual self - good to see.
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
She's not at a really low number but she might keep dropping. There are a couple of options. Leave her alone and just monitor and see where she's going. She's still at a relatively high number. If you are nervous that she will drop lower than what you want to shoot her at, then you can feed her a small LC snack to see if it will bump her up. I'd do a +10 too and see where she is. If she's still dropping, you can feed her another very small LC snack but nothing after +10. I'm not sure what number you are comfortable shooting??
She's not at a really low number but she might keep dropping. There are a couple of options. Leave her alone and just monitor and see where she's going. She's still at a relatively high number. If you are nervous that she will drop lower than what you want to shoot her at, then you can feed her a small LC snack to see if it will bump her up. I'd do a +10 too and see where she is. If she's still dropping, you can feed her another very small LC snack but nothing after +10. I'm not sure what number you are comfortable shooting??
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
Renee: I'd post at +11.5 and not wait until +12. There probably won't be a big difference in 11.5 and 12 and that gives you time for someone to help you out if you need it. If you post at +12, you'll have to stall waiting for help possibly.
Renee: I'd post at +11.5 and not wait until +12. There probably won't be a big difference in 11.5 and 12 and that gives you time for someone to help you out if you need it. If you post at +12, you'll have to stall waiting for help possibly.
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
+9 176
+10.5 123
+11.5 104
Her PMBG is low. She's been falling since +6. She should be getting food soon, but the question is - do we shoot?
Look at her spreadsheet first. Two days ago, she dropped her levels all afternoon, and we delayed food and insulin for two hours. As she didn't look to be going up on her own, we finally fed without a shot. Her levels were high next morning.
Any advice?
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
+9 176
+10.5 123
+11.5 104
Her PMBG is low. She's been falling since +6. She should be getting food soon, but the question is - do we shoot?
Look at her spreadsheet first. Two days ago, she dropped her levels all afternoon, and we delayed food and insulin for two hours. As she didn't look to be going up on her own, we finally fed without a shot. Her levels were high next morning.
Any advice?
dian and wheezer
Member Since 2009
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
gosh, really not sure here as I really do not like giving dosing advice but looks as though your cat is a late nadir kitty. meaning her nadir is lowest around her PM shot. we really do not have enough data to know when she starts going up. if we know at +13 she starts to rise, then we could shoot at +12. I would test +12, +12.5 and +1. if going up then shoot. if goes to 40 I would decrease and try to half that dose. that would be anywhere close to the first mark on the syringe.
This is just what I would do. I am sure more folks with more experience will be along. at least I hope so
gosh, really not sure here as I really do not like giving dosing advice but looks as though your cat is a late nadir kitty. meaning her nadir is lowest around her PM shot. we really do not have enough data to know when she starts going up. if we know at +13 she starts to rise, then we could shoot at +12. I would test +12, +12.5 and +1. if going up then shoot. if goes to 40 I would decrease and try to half that dose. that would be anywhere close to the first mark on the syringe.
This is just what I would do. I am sure more folks with more experience will be along. at least I hope so
dian and wheezer
Member Since 2009
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
ps:
levels high next AM due to probable bounce. Liver is in training school LTS to learn not to panic with these lower numbers
ps:
levels high next AM due to probable bounce. Liver is in training school LTS to learn not to panic with these lower numbers
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
12.5 = 104. If she follows the same pattern she did two days ago, she's just going to keep dropping for a while. I gave up on waiting her out the last time we saw this after delaying on food and dose for 2 hours.
She's only on a .25 dose now. How does one halve that?
I've got to feed the civvie cats. I can delay on Mala for a little longer, though she'll be furious with me. Oh, well. She'll forgive once she gets some food in her.
12.5 = 104. If she follows the same pattern she did two days ago, she's just going to keep dropping for a while. I gave up on waiting her out the last time we saw this after delaying on food and dose for 2 hours.
She's only on a .25 dose now. How does one halve that?
I've got to feed the civvie cats. I can delay on Mala for a little longer, though she'll be furious with me. Oh, well. She'll forgive once she gets some food in her.
dian and wheezer
Member Since 2009
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
draw up to just a hair past the first line. that would be like a 0.1u a little more light above that line is 0.2u.
draw up to just a hair past the first line. that would be like a 0.1u a little more light above that line is 0.2u.
dian and wheezer
Member Since 2009
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
staying at 104 for the last hour so looks as though she is surfing. cats drop less from same dose when starting out at a lower PS (usually).
I have only popped into your condo on occasion and I am terrible at reading SS. so I could be way off base here but did not want you to be left hanging
staying at 104 for the last hour so looks as though she is surfing. cats drop less from same dose when starting out at a lower PS (usually).
I have only popped into your condo on occasion and I am terrible at reading SS. so I could be way off base here but did not want you to be left hanging
Re: 4//23 Yemala AMPS 129 +1 206 +2 197 +3 172 +4 213 +5 201
I would agree with stalling to see if she will come up on her own. I'm not here long enough to be able to talk you through shooting a low number like this....especially a low dropping number. Sometimes, we shoot a BCS ( basically a chicken dose) but that is usually .25u less than the normal dose which doesn't help you any. So I would stall and see if she comes up. You also need to change your subject line showing she is falling and asking for help. I'm hoping someone else will chime in...like I said, I'm not sitting here in the house long enough to help you through this one and you need someone to do that.
I would agree with stalling to see if she will come up on her own. I'm not here long enough to be able to talk you through shooting a low number like this....especially a low dropping number. Sometimes, we shoot a BCS ( basically a chicken dose) but that is usually .25u less than the normal dose which doesn't help you any. So I would stall and see if she comes up. You also need to change your subject line showing she is falling and asking for help. I'm hoping someone else will chime in...like I said, I'm not sitting here in the house long enough to help you through this one and you need someone to do that.
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMBG 104 and dropping. Help
Renee: How much longer can you stall? If you can stall an hour to +14, I would see if she comes up. I, personally, am not comfortable suggesting that you shoot the .25u after I saw what she did the other night. I hate to tell you to skip if she's not up by +14 but I don't think you have the data to shoot and I'm not sure if you can dial in something less like .1u.
Could you please put the hour past this morning's shot time in your subject line? When people see PMBG, they think you are not shooting at all. So if she was at 104 at +12, then put +12 104 and then +13 99. If you decide not to shoot, then you would put PMBG at the last number you got before you didn't shoot. I'm sorry but I want to err on the side of caution with her.
Renee: How much longer can you stall? If you can stall an hour to +14, I would see if she comes up. I, personally, am not comfortable suggesting that you shoot the .25u after I saw what she did the other night. I hate to tell you to skip if she's not up by +14 but I don't think you have the data to shoot and I'm not sure if you can dial in something less like .1u.
Could you please put the hour past this morning's shot time in your subject line? When people see PMBG, they think you are not shooting at all. So if she was at 104 at +12, then put +12 104 and then +13 99. If you decide not to shoot, then you would put PMBG at the last number you got before you didn't shoot. I'm sorry but I want to err on the side of caution with her.
Laurie and Mr Tinkles
Member Since 2010
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMBG 104 and dropping. Help
Oh good, I was just going to suggest a +13.5...that's a decent rise. Will you be able to monitor tonight if you do shoot? Do you have plenty of test strips and HC food? Will you be able to shoot 12 hours from when you shoot tonight, or will being off schedule cause a problem for you?
Oh good, I was just going to suggest a +13.5...that's a decent rise. Will you be able to monitor tonight if you do shoot? Do you have plenty of test strips and HC food? Will you be able to shoot 12 hours from when you shoot tonight, or will being off schedule cause a problem for you?
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMBG 104 and dropping. Help
If you did not feed her and she's on the way up, it's up to you if you shoot. Shooting late is the same as a dose reduction. So if I understand she was:
+12: 104
+13: 99
+13.5: 127
Are you comfortable shooting a 127? You want to take advantage of overlap if you are comfortable with that number because if she's on her way up now from her AM cycle, she'll continue to go up until she onsets for her PM cycle. But since you don't have a lot of data to know when that is...you will have to monitor like crazy to be sure she continues to rise. If you want to wait a little longer and make sure she is rising, you can. You'll lose your overlap to a certain degree but it's safer if you are not comfy with the 127. We need to also advise you how to get back on schedule starting tomorrow but deal with this first.
If you did not feed her and she's on the way up, it's up to you if you shoot. Shooting late is the same as a dose reduction. So if I understand she was:
+12: 104
+13: 99
+13.5: 127
Are you comfortable shooting a 127? You want to take advantage of overlap if you are comfortable with that number because if she's on her way up now from her AM cycle, she'll continue to go up until she onsets for her PM cycle. But since you don't have a lot of data to know when that is...you will have to monitor like crazy to be sure she continues to rise. If you want to wait a little longer and make sure she is rising, you can. You'll lose your overlap to a certain degree but it's safer if you are not comfy with the 127. We need to also advise you how to get back on schedule starting tomorrow but deal with this first.
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMBG 104 and dropping. Help
Did you shoot?
Did you shoot?
Laurie and Mr Tinkles
Member Since 2010
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMBG 104 and dropping. Help
Ok, please update your subject line with your PMPS # when you get a chance, and plan on getting a +1 and +2 to start. I'll be around and watching to see how you're doing, so please keep us updated, ok?
Ok, please update your subject line with your PMPS # when you get a chance, and plan on getting a +1 and +2 to start. I'll be around and watching to see how you're doing, so please keep us updated, ok?
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
she'll forgive you! and you've done a great job!
she'll forgive you! and you've done a great job!
Laurie and Mr Tinkles
Member Since 2010
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
Nice hooting! I bet she forgave you when she saw the tuna! :lol:
Nice hooting! I bet she forgave you when she saw the tuna! :lol:
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
Good job!!! Great shooting. I'll also be around all night.
Good job!!! Great shooting. I'll also be around all night.
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
She certainly has a tortitude!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: We had a torti once as well. I LOVED her tortitude.
She certainly has a tortitude!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: We had a torti once as well. I LOVED her tortitude.
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
Tortitude and a half. She is undisputed mistress of all she surveys - that includes all other civvy cats as well. They are her slaves and minions.
She's at 192 for her +1
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
+9 176
+10.5 123
+11.5 104
+13 99
+13.5 127
PMPS 126
+1 = 192
I'll keep updating as I can
Tortitude and a half. She is undisputed mistress of all she surveys - that includes all other civvy cats as well. They are her slaves and minions.
She's at 192 for her +1
AMPS =125
+1 206
+3 197
+3 172
+4 213
+5 201
+6 226
+7 214
+8 196
+9 176
+10.5 123
+11.5 104
+13 99
+13.5 127
PMPS 126
+1 = 192
I'll keep updating as I can
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126
Renee --
It helps if you can keep the subject line of Yemala's condo updated with your current test info. If we're scanning to make sure no one is in trouble, especially if you've shot a low number, having the numbers visible means we don't have to keep opening your condo to see what's going on.
Renee --
It helps if you can keep the subject line of Yemala's condo updated with your current test info. If we're scanning to make sure no one is in trouble, especially if you've shot a low number, having the numbers visible means we don't have to keep opening your condo to see what's going on.
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192
Nice.... a food spike perhaps. That will give you some room if she decides to come back down.
Nice.... a food spike perhaps. That will give you some room if she decides to come back down.
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192 +2 204 +3 234
Hi Renee:
I hope you're not retyping all her values every time. We can get them as we run through your condo for earlier in the day or see them on your SS. Looks like she has decided to bounce tonight so yu should be able to get some rest!
Hi Renee:
I hope you're not retyping all her values every time. We can get them as we run through your condo for earlier in the day or see them on your SS. Looks like she has decided to bounce tonight so yu should be able to get some rest!
Hroswitha
Member Since 2011
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192 +2 204 +3 234
No no. I cut and paste. It also allows me to keep a quick visual on her without having to run to the spreadsheet all the time.
Mala is resting. It would be nice if we could.
My question though - what will I shoot in the AM? Same dose, or reduced even further?
And just as importantly, when do we shoot tomorrow? Her typical breakfast is at 6, but we can wait. Opinions?
No no. I cut and paste. It also allows me to keep a quick visual on her without having to run to the spreadsheet all the time.
Mala is resting. It would be nice if we could.
My question though - what will I shoot in the AM? Same dose, or reduced even further?
And just as importantly, when do we shoot tomorrow? Her typical breakfast is at 6, but we can wait. Opinions?
Laurie and Mr Tinkles
Member Since 2010
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192 +2 204 +3 234
Either Mala is bouncing, or she is a late nadir kitty....it's too soon to say for sure. As you continue to shoot a consistent dose and collect data, the pattern will emerge. I agree that you can get some rest though!
I would stay with the same dose, she has not earned a reduction yet. You will want to shoot 12 hours from the time you shot tonight...but if you want to start moving the schedule back, you can shoot 15 minutes early on each shot, or 30 minutes early on one shot per day.
If you could try to get a +10 and/or +11 in the morning, that will help. Please post the tests and ask for help if you aren't sure what to do, ok?
Either Mala is bouncing, or she is a late nadir kitty....it's too soon to say for sure. As you continue to shoot a consistent dose and collect data, the pattern will emerge. I agree that you can get some rest though!
I would stay with the same dose, she has not earned a reduction yet. You will want to shoot 12 hours from the time you shot tonight...but if you want to start moving the schedule back, you can shoot 15 minutes early on each shot, or 30 minutes early on one shot per day.
If you could try to get a +10 and/or +11 in the morning, that will help. Please post the tests and ask for help if you aren't sure what to do, ok?
Re: 4/23 Yemala PMPS 126 +1 192 +2 204 +3 234
Hope you get some rest.
Hope you get some rest.
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