3/21 Harley AMPS 373 PMPS 300

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Laura and Harley (GA)

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Good morning, yawn streeeeetch.

And it's looking like a good morning - Harley came and snuggled with me last night! And he was very interested in food when we got up this AM. Meowing like an Oriental "feed me now, already" then rubbing up against my ankles so I almost trip carrying the food bowls.

He ate his usual 1/4 of a can of food and I put out the other 1/4 on the dresser where he can get to it during the morning. After breakfast he played with a catnip toy.

The only med. I gave him was 2.5mg of Pepcid crumbled up in his food - thank you Marcy. :-D I'll most likely give him some fluids sometime today.

AMPS was 373 so I shot 0.6u. I have to go to work today plus call the vets so my BF is coming over to watch him for me and feed him if he asks. BF wants nothing to do with insulin or shots but can handle food & water!
 
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Yeah! A kitty willing to snuggle and eat is a kitty feeling better. I hope you get the answers you need from the vets today.
 
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Glad Harley feels better! I hope today continues to be good for you.
 
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I just spoke to the second vet about Harley (the one who prescribed prednisolone) and he said that he's seen good results using it with pancreatitis in cats, but with that said, he's not insisting that I continue to give it especially since Harley is eating on his own and responding to the fluids and pain medication. He's also OK with me continuing to give the 2.5mg Pepcid AC. I asked if there was any reason to consider an antibiotic at this time and he said not unless Harley is running a fever in which case that would indicate an infection.

Next to call my regular vet. She typically doesn't call back until late at night as she's a one vet practice.
 
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I like this advice. :-D It will mean monitoring on your part for food and water intake and just his general demeanor. But you are wonderful at all those things.
 
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Glad to see things are looking up. Still sendin ya all the best!
Meow from the fur crew here :)
 
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Glad to hear Harley is doing a little better. Boy...you've sure had an up and down week with him. Poor guy. I actually think it's a lot easier to give a shot now than a pill or liquid (never thought I'd be sayin' that). Paws crossed things keep lookin' up and numbers go down.
 
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dancing_cat hurray for cat snuggling and blue numbers!

I agree with you Holly --- I came to find injections much easier than giving any meds!
 
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Saw this over on Lantus, Laura. I don't know if you have seen it before:


Info from Cheryl / Winnie – steroids and pancreatitis tx

steroids are actually considered to be a front line treatment for p-titis. The pancreas is inflamed and steroids are potent anti inflammatory drugs.

It is important to treat p-titis flares aggressively.
I have experience steroids w/ 2 different p-titis kitties.
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Most cats w/ p-titis flare experience a degree of nausea-- which could explain the inappetence. Although
pepcid can help in mild cases, it often isn't enough for nausea of p-titis.
I had great luck w/ ondansetron for kitties w/ ptitis and lymphoma. it is very inexpensive prescription med. it comes in either pill or injection. I had easy pillers, so I went that route. The *big* p-titis vets ( zoran,marks, scherk) all recommend its use. If your vet is unfamiliar, i would be happy to post the dosing ranges for you .
If there is vomiting -- then cerenia shots can really help. They can only be used so many days in a row though.
and to note, they can be used along w/ the ondansetron. ( and yes you can give the pepcid with both of them. )

If your kitty is not eating, appetite stimulants are often used.
mirtazapine is a very effective medication and only has to be dosed every 3 days.
http://www.veterinarypartner.com/Content.plx?P=A&A=2552

another commonly used med is cyproheptadine.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_cy ... adine.html

note: appy stims will not work if your cat is nauseous.

There are also various ways to entice your kitty to eat. and that sounds like it is a problem ( although certainly the pred should help-- and getting rid of nausea and pain and appy stims :) more tools the better !
If you scroll down on the following link's thread you will see a post of suggestions for appy enticements:
viewtopic.php?f=28&t=26965

Pain control for p-titis is extremely important. buprenorphine is a med that is commonly used for kitties with this problem and is very effective. If your cat has p-titis it is generally assumed to be in pain. Sometimes the only way to know if treating pain will be effective is by trying. Please talk to your vet about this.
You can refer him or her to this by margie scherk, dvm:
Feline Pancreatitis: Underdiagnosed and Overlooked
Margie Scherk, DVM, DABVP (Feline)

Analgesia is of critical importance in the comfort of the patient, but also in the progression of the disease/inflammation through the negative physiological effects of pain. Pain causes disease and prevents healing. Even if obvious abdominal pain isn't present, use a "test dose" of 0.1-0.2-mg/kg oxymorphone IV to see if the patient improves over the approximately 6 hour effective period. If that is the case, then constant rate infusion of a narcotic may be considered or a transdermal fentanyl patch (DuragesicTM) for continuous relief. TorbugesicTM is not as effective for visceral pain as the opioid agonists are.

in other words, buprenex or fentanyl patches are best options for home care.

denosyl is a powerful antiox and can help the p-titis and GI issues as well as be a prophylactic for a kitty who is in danger of HL from not eating. If the liver looks like it is an issue, then I would use the denamarin. Try to dose this as far apart from pepcid as you can. It has a thick coating and needs some acid for the thick outer coating to dissolve in the gut. We had a few whole pills show up in the LB. The folks at nutrimax suggested smashing the pill and giving immediately. we would lose a little potency, but enough and better than coming out whole ! just something to make sure you look for in the LB if you use denosyl or denamarin.

prozyme is a veg. based prebiotic and helps to break down food and ease digestion. i recommend that too.
and if there is diarrhea ( and with gi issues, some probiotic like culturelle or fortiflora can be of help )

The thing w/p-titis flare, is it really needs to have all the *guns* thrown at it to knock it down.

Sub Q Fluids are a key component in treating p-titis flares. (s. Marks, dvm has it on top of his list, as does scherk who states : "Therapy for pancreatitis is determined by the type of pancreatitis. Fluid therapy and pain relief are the cornerstones in supportive care. Sustain blood and plasma volume, correct acid-base and electrolyte disorders."
 
Harley thanks you all for the good vibes and well wishes! He was a little "wilted" when I got home from work but that's because he was ready for his juice bar treatment. So after testing, feeding and giving his shot he had a mango-kiwi cocktail (100ccs) and is already looking shinier and happier.

PMPS was 300, gave 0.6u again.

His appetite has picked up but it's still not where it should be. I have mixed feelings about stopping the prednisolone. I fear he may need it but then again it's such a difficult thing to administer plus it wrecks havoc with the BGs. I'm a little less shocked about seeing these numbers than I was on Saturday, but it's still unnerving. (We are doing this whole sugar dance backwards, we're supposed to start with the big doses in the beginning and work our way down, not the other way around. ohmygod_smile) If he does not continue to improve in a few days I may re-think the prednisolone.

Thank you Sue for the birthday wishes! Waking up to Harley snuggling was the best present I could have wished for - short of a miraculous recovery. cat_pet_icon
 
Happy birthday to Harley's mama bean! My birthday wish is for you to have a happy, healthy Harley soon! So tough when you're making progress on the diabetes and another health issue complicates things. Sounds like Harley is on the road to recovery (anti-jinx, paws n tails crossed).
 
Laura, is the 21st your birthday? Mine too :) That’s pretty wild.
Hope you had a happy one. Here’s to another trip around the sun! drinking24
 
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