18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101

[GraceAndAngie]

Good afternoon folks,

I'm a bit late posting today because I've been behind schedule from the beginning. Everything is going well with Angie today, she's given me pressies and snuggles . I've been really missing those snuggles. I got her to come out of the bedroom to eat 3rd breakfast this morning - she's been in hiding and refusing to come out for food. I had given in and was feeding her in the bedroom. No more of that now. She came and sat on my lap as soon as I got out of the shower. I had a towel around me and had just sat down beside her to give her a pat before getting dressed. She got up and sat on my lap, damp towel and all. After a week of no cuddles from her, what could I do except sit there, get cold, and enjoy every minute of it?

She's still getting some numbers that are higher than I would like. At least with the auto-feeders I can get her feeding on schedule now. I'd like to give her a little bit longer to see if that will help. I'm still having to get up at 3 am because they haven't worked out the auto-feeders yet! I slept in this morning and my partner gave them ambg breakfast at 6 am (but no test).

I hope you all have a lovely day/night.

Lotsa healing vines to Ruben and any other sick kitties.

Yesterday's condo is here.

 

[rhiannon and shadow (GA)]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95

Glad to hear she's getting back to normal and snuggling again....

Happy Day Nine!!​

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[Courtney and Kismet]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95

awww, how wonderful that you got cuddles! I know how sad you were that she has been stand-offish. They always do eventually come around and forgive us. Maybe in their own little way, they know everything we put them through is out of love.

Happy Day 9! I wouldn't be too concerned about that 95, it could just be a bit of a food spike. Hoping that the auto feeder helps bring her down some, though, and that they figure it out!

 

[GraceAndAngie]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95

I wouldn't be too concerned about that 95, it could just be a bit of a food spike.

The 95 I don't mind so much - it's the 120s and 130s I don't like! The vet said that her tail medication could raise her bg a little bit as there's a tiny bit of alcohol in it - she seems very sensitive to what's in her food.

 

[GraceAndAngie]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

Hello,

If Angie were your cat, would you put her back on insulin support? Her numbers have been mostly within the normal range but generally at the high end of the normal range. We've had a few numbers over the normal range during this trial as well.

Should I stick it out a bit longer or put her back on 0.1 IU?

Thanks,
Grace

 

[Courtney and Kismet]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

I just took a look at her SS, and by the looks of it, her PS values have been on the decline, which is a good thing. For the past two days, she's stayed between 56 and 122--- all health, healing numbers that we look for in a cat with a functioning pancreas.

If she were my cat, I'd wait it out a few more days, and focus only on recording PS values since that is when bgs tend to be highest. If she is remarkably higher than 120, then maybe I'd consider trying 0.1u. I think you need data on a few more cycles before you many any decisions, though. When K went OTJ, I only got PS tests, no spot checks. I was looking for him to be under 120 at all times to determine if insulin would be needed again. Hope this helps!

Also, her higher bgs may be affected by her medication. It might be wise to wait to see if her numbers come down once her tail is all better.

 

[TheBowHuntress]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

Well first of all==CONGRATS ON DAY 9 TRIAL!!! :RAHCAT :RAHCAT :RAHCAT
If she were my cat, I would wait; I have no advice, but that is what I would do; her numbers are beautiful btw

 

[Deb & Wink]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

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[Sienne and Gabby (GA)]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

I'd hold off on starting insulin, as well. FWIW, there are some cats whose "normal" is a bit above the 120 mark and others whose normal is low (like in the 40s). There's one notorious kitty, Barbs's Tuffy, that while OTJ that would routinely throw high numbers when stressed or just to make sure Barb was paying attention and would then throw Barb a 30 to really make sure she was paying attention.

 

[Anne & Zener GA]

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Paws crossed here. You can do it, Ms. P! :mrgreen: :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
Liz

 

[TheBowHuntress]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

while OTJ ... would then throw ...a 30 to really make sure she was paying attention.

I thought it was very unusual for a cat to go near hypo numbers, if they weren't taking insulin; obviously not, Sienne, though how common is that?

 

[Frosty]

CONGRATULATIONS ON DAY 9. THE FINISH LINE IS WITHIN SITE!!!​

 

[GraceAndAngie]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

I thought it was very unusual for a cat to go near hypo numbers, if they weren't taking insulin...

Hi Kat, Angie got a 38 near the beginning of her trial, I panicked, asked for help, and Marje came to the rescue:

It's not rare or unusual for some cats (non diabetic or in remission) to have lower BGs. She can't hypo without insulin so it's not a bid deal if they get HC or not. If its the only thing she will eat, Id let her.

And

Not in a cat not getting insulin. Every once in a while, some of the cats in remission will throw 20s and 30s. I'd not be worried about her BG right now.

 

[TheBowHuntress]

Re: 18/03 Angie Trial Day 9- am+3=95 pmps=101 - back on juic

I thought it was very unusual for a cat to go near hypo numbers, if they weren't taking insulin...

Hi Kat, Angie got a 38 near the beginning of her trial, I panicked, asked for help, and Marje came to the rescue:

It's not rare or unusual for some cats (non diabetic or in remission) to have lower BGs. She can't hypo without insulin so it's not a bid deal if they get HC or not. If its the only thing she will eat, Id let her.

And

Not in a cat not getting insulin. Every once in a while, some of the cats in remission will throw 20s and 30s. I'd not be worried about her BG right now.

So a cat in remission can throw a low number but cannot go hypo--where he/should could fall into a coma and all the other bad stuff that happens to insulin-cats, correct?

 

[GraceAndAngie]

Healthy people (and I assume cats) can have hypos every now and then - usually from a combo of not eating and exercise.

Other diseases and metabolic issues can cause hypos too. It's rare though and only possible to diagnose after the event so if it hasn't been a problem, don't need to worry about it until it happens! I get postprandial hypoglycaemia which is kind of the opposite of diabetes 2 - it's insulin sensitivity (rather than insulin resistance).

There is also something called idiopathic postprandial syndrome - which is all of the symptoms of hypoglycaemia (but can't go to coma) without actually ever going hypo.