14/08 Chico 81@AMBG 90@PMBG 11th day OTJ trial

Marina & Chico said:
One of the lowest measurements so far, maybe has something to do with him receiving more food at +9 ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

live, learn, experiment, repeat :D

have a nice Saturday everybody :)

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I'll be switching to either every 3 hours or 6 hours auto-feeder when I get him completely under control. I feel like it'll help BG stay more stable.

If we didn't eat for 12 hours between meals as diabetics our BG would plummet.

I feel the same happens to them, or at least similar.
 
DexterMeowgan said:
I'll be switching to either every 3 hours or 6 hours auto-feeder when I get him completely under control. I feel like it'll help BG stay more stable.

If we didn't eat for 12 hours between meals as diabetics our BG would plummet.

I feel the same happens to them, or at least similar.
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We switched to every 3 hours feeding, i am not certain we would decrease more but who knows :), we will follow you for when you do manage to switch :)
 
Marina & Chico said:
We switched to every 3 hours feeding, i am not certain we would decrease more but who knows :), we will follow you for when you do manage to switch :)
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I have a feeder that I was using before having to split the cats food that can feed I think up to 12 times per day, but, only goes down to I think 1/8 cup.

That would mean I could feed every 6 hours automatically, 1/4 daily portion at a time.
 
Summer and Susie said:
Marina, I will never understand the theory that more food, late in the cycle, will bring glucose numbers down. Shouldn't the food raise the number?
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The idea is for them to not get low enough to cause glucose spikes from them drawing it from stored sources, which causes a short spike.

They also will produce insulin after a meal to naturally lower BG values, if they're under control and they've recovered that function naturally.

Low carb food has such a low amount of starches & sugars it shouldn't spike BG outside of normal ranges unless you have a diabetic cat.

Feeding them smaller amounts spread out over time versus one meal every 12 hours should in theory keep the BG more steady as it takes a while to process the food. As one meal is processed and they start falling, they get another.
 
Marina & Chico said:
Thank you, due to this cute habit we had to stop using blinds cause he was ruining all of them haha
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We raise our blinds about halfway, and put covers over them in front of them (blankets) that the cat can easily move and sit in the window but keep light & peepers out.

Our cats pushed at the ends of the blinds and made this a must-do because they ruined 2 out of 3 sets in our rental we have to replace now lol. The third didn't happen because it's higher off the ground and they couldn't jump to it lol.
 
Summer and Susie said:
Marina, I will never understand the theory that more food, late in the cycle, will bring glucose numbers down. Shouldn't the food raise the number?
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I come out of the idea that when we started the OTJ we were told to feed at +9 instead of +8, so if i was to keep the same logic… maybe the fact that all meals are 3 hours apart, theoretically after 3 hours the food is out of the system and they get a new meal, just like Kristina explained

i really liked Kristina’s explanation :)
 
DexterMeowgan said:
The idea is for them to not get low enough to cause glucose spikes from them drawing it from stored sources, which causes a short spike.

They also will produce insulin after a meal to naturally lower BG values, if they're under control and they've recovered that function naturally.

Low carb food has such a low amount of starches & sugars it shouldn't spike BG outside of normal ranges unless you have a diabetic cat.

Feeding them smaller amounts spread out over time versus one meal every 12 hours should in theory keep the BG more steady as it takes a while to process the food. As one meal is processed and they start falling, they get another.
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When you refer to the spike I assume you are talking about the bounces. This makes sense in order to keep them on more of a level playing field so they are not going too low and then bouncing too high. Is this the correct understanding?
 
DexterMeowgan said:
I have a feeder that I was using before having to split the cats food that can feed I think up to 12 times per day, but, only goes down to I think 1/8 cup.

That would mean I could feed every 6 hours automatically, 1/4 daily portion at a time.
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Does it have the possibility to cool the food? Wouldn’t you be worried to feed every 6 hours and cause bigger spikes as you described earlier?
 
DexterMeowgan said:
We raise our blinds about halfway, and put covers over them in front of them (blankets) that the cat can easily move and sit in the window but keep light & peepers out.

Our cats pushed at the ends of the blinds and made this a must-do because they ruined 2 out of 3 sets in our rental we have to replace now lol. The third didn't happen because it's higher off the ground and they couldn't jump to it lol.
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Hahaha i though we were alone in this
 
Marina & Chico said:
Hahaha i though we were alone in this
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Absolutely not lol, cats can be devious.

I feed dry food, and it's covered top to keep air out and keep the food from getting rancid.

Wet food I can understand that being a concern for sure.

@Summer and Susie Yes, I'm talking about bounces. Don't quote me on this as I'm still learning myself, but in theory it makes a lot of sense to keep the BG in a very small range.
 
DexterMeowgan said:
Absolutely not lol, cats can be devious.

I feed dry food, and it's covered top to keep air out and keep the food from getting rancid.

Wet food I can understand that being a concern for sure.

@Summer and Susie Yes, I'm talking about bounces. Don't quote me on this as I'm still learning myself, but in theory it makes a lot of sense to keep the BG in a very small range.
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Would love to keep the BG in a very small range. Some CG are able to do that but not me. I guess I still have a lot to learn but I am wondering if a small meal, later at night (or early morning) might actually make a difference with Susie's AMPS which are always (almost) the highest reading.
 
Summer and Susie said:
Would love to keep the BG in a very small range. Some CG are able to do that but not me. I guess I still have a lot to learn but I am wondering if a small meal, later at night (or early morning) might actually make a difference with Susie's AMPS which are always (almost) the highest reading.
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I would think a small LC meal would help because they don't rely on glucose stores for energy between 12.
 
Summer and Susie said:
Thank you. I normally feed in the pm at PMPS, +2 and +4. Will leave a small amount at +8 tonight and see if it doesn't help the AMPS number come down a tad.
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Actually i think feeding at +8, +9 is applicable when the kitty gets to a smaller dose. Maybe try with a meal at +6 instead? We had to stuff a lot of food early in the cycle as well because Chico was nadiring very early, but we would still feed at +6.
 
Summer and Susie said:
Would love to keep the BG in a very small range. Some CG are able to do that but not me. I guess I still have a lot to learn but I am wondering if a small meal, later at night (or early morning) might actually make a difference with Susie's AMPS which are always (almost) the highest reading.
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Sometimes not being able to keep the BG in a small range cannot be influenced by what we do, so don’t be too harsh on yourself. It might take Susie longer to get there but she will, patience is required :bighug:
 
Marina & Chico said:
Actually i think feeding at +8, +9 is applicable when the kitty gets to a smaller dose. Maybe try with a meal at +6 instead? We had to stuff a lot of food early in the cycle as well because Chico was nadiring very early, but we would still feed at +6.
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Okay, should I keep the +2 and +4 too? I'm trying to keep her at 2 cans a day and if I start feeding at +6 then I open another can which isn't a problem but seems like a food for her pm cycle. How about a +2 and +5?
 
Summer and Susie said:
Okay, should I keep the +2 and +4 too? I'm trying to keep her at 2 cans a day and if I start feeding at +6 then I open another can which isn't a problem but seems like a food for her pm cycle. How about a +2 and +5?
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Why don’t you just give the 1 can from each cycle spread out in more meals? If the 2 cans is the right amount to feed her, i wouldn’t increase it.
 
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