13 year old cat just diagnosed with diabetes

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Sona Sheely

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I am so grateful I found this forum. My 13-year-old cat scout was just diagnosed with diabetes a few hours ago. I love this cat more than life itself. I’m a flight attendant for a major carrier I am away from home a few days a week. I have a cat sitter who said she would be able to help me with his injections twice a day. I am so completely terrified I don’t know what to do. Is this even possible with my schedule. Any help or advice would be so appreciated.
 
Welcome to the FDMB! You're in the best place you never wanted to be!

Diabetes is not a death sentence and with proper care, your Scout can live a long and healthy life. It's great that you have a cat sitter that will help you! Giving the shots is really simple and most cats never even notice them.

Need some more information from you. What food is Scout eating? A diabetic cat needs to eat a low carb canned or raw diet that's less than 10% carbs. Most of us feed our own cats Fancy Feast Classics, Friskies pates or 9-Lives ground but HERE is a food chart that has a lot of common foods and their nutritional breakdown. Just make sure they're under 10% carbs.

Have you started insulin yet? If so, what kind? Some are much better than others. The recommended insulin's are Lantus, Basaglar, Levemir and ProZinc but a lot of vets are still prescribing Vetsulin/Caninsulin which is a fine insulin....for dogs. In cats it tends to hit hard and fast and then wear off before the next shot is due.

If you have started insulin, it's important that if Scout isn't already eating a low carb diet than when you do the diet change, you do it slowly and when you can home test. Reducing the carbs in the diet can drastically reduce the need for insulin. Some lucky cats can even be diet controlled without ever having to be on insulin, but most need it at least for a short time.

It will be important for you to learn to home test. If this were a child that was diabetic, you'd be told to test before every shot...it should be the same for our furkids! Otherwise we won't know if it's safe to give insulin at all! By testing in between the shots, you also learn how he's responding to treatment. I know it sounds like a lot right now, but once you get your routine down, it's no more disruptive to your life than brushing your teeth. I could Test/Feed/Shoot China in about 5 minutes and then tests that I'd do between the shots took about 60-90 seconds.

HERE is a link to the signature, hypo kit and other useful information
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-how-you-can-help-us-help-you.216696/


You can do this!!!
 
I am so grateful I found this forum. My 13-year-old cat scout was just diagnosed with diabetes a few hours ago. I love this cat more than life itself. I’m a flight attendant for a major carrier I am away from home a few days a week. I have a cat sitter who said she would be able to help me with his injections twice a day. I am so completely terrified I don’t know what to do. Is this even possible with my schedule. Any help or advice would be so appreciated.
We all started out terrified. Lots of stress, lots of tears, lots of frustration at first. You will learn, and you will become confident. You will have the support of this forum and guidance from experienced members like Chris. It sounds like you have a great cat sitter, you can learn together. I gave Fritz his first insulin shot on August 4. Ten days later, I no longer get anxious, shaky or panicked when it's time to prick his ear and get a blood drop for the meter. Ten days, and actually this calmness came on day 8. The insulin shots are super easy to give, they don’t even feel them. You will work out a rhythm with your little Scout and your cat sitter. Just let Chris and other experts guide you. I know you’d rather be anywhere but here, but you will find lots of support and comfort here as well. I’m so glad you found us just hours after his diagnosis. You can do this and you and Scout will be fine.
 
Welcome to the FDMB! You're in the best place you never wanted to be!

Diabetes is not a death sentence and with proper care, your Scout can live a long and healthy life. It's great that you have a cat sitter that will help you! Giving the shots is really simple and most cats never even notice them.

Need some more information from you. What food is Scout eating? A diabetic cat needs to eat a low carb canned or raw diet that's less than 10% carbs. Most of us feed our own cats Fancy Feast Classics, Friskies pates or 9-Lives ground but HERE is a food chart that has a lot of common foods and their nutritional breakdown. Just make sure they're under 10% carbs.

Have you started insulin yet? If so, what kind? Some are much better than others. The recommended insulin's are Lantus, Basaglar, Levemir and ProZinc but a lot of vets are still prescribing Vetsulin/Caninsulin which is a fine insulin....for dogs. In cats it tends to hit hard and fast and then wear off before the next shot is due.

If you have started insulin, it's important that if Scout isn't already eating a low carb diet than when you do the diet change, you do it slowly and when you can home test. Reducing the carbs in the diet can drastically reduce the need for insulin. Some lucky cats can even be diet controlled without ever having to be on insulin, but most need it at least for a short time.

It will be important for you to learn to home test. If this were a child that was diabetic, you'd be told to test before every shot...it should be the same for our furkids! Otherwise we won't know if it's safe to give insulin at all! By testing in between the shots, you also learn how he's responding to treatment. I know it sounds like a lot right now, but once you get your routine down, it's no more disruptive to your life than brushing your teeth. I could Test/Feed/Shoot China in about 5 minutes and then tests that I'd do between the shots took about 60-90 seconds.

HERE is a link to the signature, hypo kit and other useful information
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/new-how-you-can-help-us-help-you.216696/


You can do this!!!
Where do I begin to say thank you. It’s two in the morning I have a 330 wake up I’ve been up all night. I meeting the Vet on Sunday. I have the most amazing vet that’s going to teach me how to do the shots and come in on her day off. I will know more when I meet with her Sunday. I do know they want me to buy the food that’s in their office. This is extremely expensive and I’m really on a fixed income. The food they want me to buy is $40 a bag. The wet food is $1.83 a can. What alternatives can I do that is cheaper but it’s still effective for my baby. I love this guy so much I will do whatever I can to make this work, but I’m hoping there is a cheaper alternative. Right now the wet food he has been using since I’ve had him has been Friskies pate. His dry food has been iambs. Which I’m sure is full of carbs. He absolutely loves his Friskies extra gravy pate. He’s also a cat tree lover. Am I still able to give him cat treats if so which ones are the best. I’m so not good with needles, but the love I have for this cat is going to overcome that. I’m also concerned about every 12 hours. With my flying schedule the 12 hours is going to sometimes fluctuate especially with my sitter. She is also really expensive, but I truly believe with your help and hers I can do this. I will post again about what injection they’re having me give him. I thought she said it started with an L, however so much information was being thrown at me my brain was a little twisted. His other bloodwork came back perfect, he just has diabetes.No way am I putting him down or giving him away because of some thing like this. I’m single and live alone. Scout has been my best friend for 12 years. He’s always there for me. When I’m sick he never leaves my side. I’m in tears just writing this. The most challenging part is going to be the money. I’m hoping some of you have some great advice other than the food they want me to purchase at their office.
 
Just tell the vet you can’t afford the prescription food. It is nothing special and is higher in carbs.
Chris has given you a food chart and lots of ideas for the food.
Definitely don’t take any of the dry food. If the vet insists you take some canned prescription food, just take one can and then you can ring her up and say Scout won’t eat it. She can’t argue with that.
Any of the freeze dried foods are ok for treats. Or just some plain cooked chicken cut up into bite sized pieces and frozen….bring out as needed.
I don’t live in the US so can’t tell you about other treats but others will.
We all start off thinking we won’t be able to cope, but it does become much easier. That is great his other blood work is good!
 
I thought she said it started with an L
Welcome, if it's Lantus it's very expensive in the US ,most of us order from Canada, but now you can purchase Semglee at a pharmacy

https://rxcanada4
A lot of us are buying our Lantus from Canada because it's 1/3 to 1/2 the price. You can get 5 pens of Lantus for $190 (including shipping). That's a total of 1500 units which is enough for most cats to last a year and some cats, up to 2 years!

Here's the info on Mark's Marine Pharmacy. They really are fantastic to work with and have saved a lot of kitty lives by making it affordable

It can take 7-10 days for the first order but refills are faster



You could also consider getting Senglee, it is a generic Lantus, and was approved by the FDA last June. The cost is compatible with Lantus from Canada.
https://www.goodrx.com/semglee
Here is the coupon you can use, just call and see if they have Semglee , the 5 pens
 
Welcome, if it's Lantus it's very expensive in the US ,most of us order from Canada, but now you can purchase Semeglee
It is Lanus. My vet is going to give him his first dose tomorrow and show me how to do it. I’m extremely nervous about it and also about the 12 hour. With my schedule it might be a bit off. Is that going to be ok?
 
It is Lanus. My vet is going to give him his first dose tomorrow and show me how to do it. I’m extremely nervous about it and also about the 12 hour. With my schedule it might be a bit off. Is that going to be ok?
I know with Lantus you can shoot 30 minutes late once per day
I don't know your schedule, but it's best if your sitter can shoot on time
I will post the syringes you should get below, we use syringes with half unit markings because with the pens you can only increase or decrease by whole units
We adjust the dose by 0.25 units that's why we use syringes and just insert the syringes into the rubber stopper that's on the pen and draw from there
You will need a script for the half unit pens, your vet probably only has the syringes with whole unit markings
 
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Using syringes with a pen, cartridge, or vial:
  • U-100 3/10cc syringes with half unit markings are the best to use for drawing Lantus, Basaglar, or Levemir from vials, cartridges, and pens.
  • BD Ultra-Fine, CarePoint Vet, Monoject, GNP, UltiCare Vet Rx, Sure Comfort, and ReliOn are just some of the brands available with half unit markings.
  • Syringes come in ½ inch or 5/16 inch needle lengths. Needle gauges are 29, 30 or 31 (31 being the thinnest)
  • Full and half-unit syringe scales:
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With my flying schedule the 12 hours is going to sometimes fluctuate especially with my sitter. She is also really expensive,
Maybe you can see if one of the vet techs can help you out and is less expensive
Do you plan on home testing?
It's really encouraged because you want to see how the insulin and dose is working and how low it's dropping your kitty. You don't want a hypo to happen
If you can't be home you can buy an auto feeder to set to open a few hours a day so your kitty has wet food to eat, we feed more than 2 times per day
About the auto feeders
I see a lot of members use this auto feeder comes with 2 ice packs for wet food
They also add some water to the food so it won't dry out

https://www.chewy.com/cat-mate-c500-digital-5-meal/dp/154556?utm_source=google-product&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=hg&utm_content=Cat Mate&utm_term=&gclid=Cj0KCQjwmIuDBhDXARIsAFITC_63x-luggpCkFZRkS8gkKWhzRbyN2QiluSdQbUAVg-nyE2iitAjCY4aAjTmEALw_wcB


Extra ice packs
https://www.amazon.com/Mate-Replace...8EYNZ1RBTQP&psc=1&refRID=AQNY433XJ8EYNZ1RBTQP
of 5 stars Identical to original ice packs that came with my Cat Mate C500
 
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As for the food look at the Food Chart Chris gave you above
Most of us feed Fancy Feast Classics or the Friskies Pate under 10 % carbs
 
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It is Lanus. My vet is going to give him his first dose tomorrow and show me how to do it. I’m extremely nervous about it and also about the 12 hour. With my schedule it might be a bit off. Is that going to be ok?
@Chris & China (GA)

@Bron and Sheba (GA)

@Bandit's Mom

Hey Chris and Bron I told Sona she can shoot Lantus 30 minutes late once her day if she can't be home since she is a flight attendant, she is away from home a few days a week
Is this ok
 
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Home testing, you can buy the
Relion Prime meter from Walmart 9 dollars it's a human meter
17.88 for 100 test strips
Cotton rounds to out behind the ear
You want 26 or 28 gauge lancets any brand

If the vet wants you to buy a pet meter Alpha Trak , forget about it, it's expensive and the strips are even more expensive like 54 dollars for 50 test strips
Our numbers are based on human meters
 
Always aim for the sweet spot warm the ears up first, you can put rice in a sock and put it in the microwave, test it on the inside of your wrist to be sure it's not to hot, like you would test a babies bottle. You can fill a pill bottle with warm water and roll it on the ears also.Just keep rubbing the ears with your fingers to warm them up
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6. As the ears get used to bleeding and grow more capilares, it gets easier to get the amount of blood you need on the first try. If he won’t stand still, you can get the blood onto a clean finger nail and test from there.
When you do get some blood you can try milking the ear.
Get you finger and gently push up toward the blood , more will appear
You will put the cotton round behind his ear in case you poke your finger, after you are done testing you will fold the cotton round over his ear to stop the bleeding , press gently for about 20 seconds until it stops
Get 26 or 28 gauge lancets
A lot of us use the lancets to test freehand
I find it better to see where I'm aiming

VIDEO: How to test your cat's blood sugar
Here is a video one of our members did
 
Always aim for the sweet spot warm the ears up first, you can put rice in a sock and put it in the microwave, test it on the inside of your wrist to be sure it's not to hot, like you would test a babies bottle. You can fill a pill bottle with warm water and roll it on the ears also.Just keep rubbing the ears with your fingers to warm them up
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6. As the ears get used to bleeding and grow more capilares, it gets easier to get the amount of blood you need on the first try. If he won’t stand still, you can get the blood onto a clean finger nail and test from there.
When you do get some blood you can try milking the ear.
Get you finger and gently push up toward the blood , more will appear
You will put the cotton round behind his ear in case you poke your finger, after you are done testing you will fold the cotton round over his ear to stop the bleeding , press gently for about 20 seconds until it stops
Get 26 or 28 gauge lancets
A lot of us use the lancets to test freehand
I find it better to see where I'm aiming

VIDEO: How to test your cat's blood sugar
Here is a video one of our members did
Thank u so much. My head is spinning. I haven’t slept. How am I going to do this. My car sitter is going to be a couple hundred dollars a month. I’m a mess.
 
Thank u so much. My head is spinning. I haven’t slept. How am I going to do this. My car sitter is going to be a couple hundred dollars a month. I’m a mess.
That is a crazy price , ask your vet tomorrow if any of the vet techs might be interested in helping you out and can test also
 
I have seen members post where they live and ask if any other members live close by that would be willing to help out , you can explain your situation just a thought
 
I live in Canton, Ohio. She is 18.00 a visit, but because of my job and Scout needing his shots every 12 hours, she is going to come 2 times a day for my 3 day flying trips away from home.
 
Hey Chris and Bron I told Sona she can shoot Lantus 30 minutes late once her day if she can't be home since she is a flight attendant, she is away from home a few days a week
Is this ok
Lantus is best given 12 hours apart, but in saying that, you have to work around what you can do with your job.
As long as you are aware that shooting early is like an increase, and shooting late is like a decrease, but 1/2 hour either way should be fine.
I would make sure you are set up with a good automatic timed feeder that you can fill each day to make sure Scout is getting those important snacks during the cycles.
Make sure your pet sitter is aware how to load the feeder properly.
 
You are all the best. I have not been able to sleep. I posted on my neighborhood website I was looking for someone to help me give scout his injections. I meeting a lady tomorrow that is a diabetic herself. She has offered to help me out. My vet is coming in on her day off tomorrow to teach me how to do injections. I’ve already ordered my needle dispenser in my home testing kit. My vet keeps pushing me to buy their canned food. I see a lot of you are using fancy feast. Should I just tell them I’m going to go with that? I honestly think $1.83 for a canna food is really expensive, but if it’s good for my scout I will do it. I’m trying to cut costs the best way that I can. Thank you again so much for all of your help. Scout also loved his treats. We are starting his new diet first thing in the morning. What cat treats do you all recommend that is good for him? I was going to look at fresh pet.
 
My vet keeps pushing me to buy their canned food. I see a lot of you are using fancy feast. Should I just tell them I’m going to go with that? I honestly think $1.83 for a canna food is really expensive, but if it’s good for my scout I will do it. I’m trying to cut costs the best way that I can.
Just tell the vet you can’t afford to pay that much for canned food. The prescription food is no better than the food you can buy at the supermarket. It should not be called prescription food as there is nothing prescription about it. Just make sure you buy cans that as 10% or less carbs. Also make sure you have a hypo kit set up in case it is needed.
If you can set up your signature and spreadsheet we will be able to help you with the dosing.
This link has information for the spreadsheet, signature and hypo kit HERE
I
can’t help with the treats as I don’t live in the US sorry

FOOD CHART
 
What cat treats do you all recommend that is good for him? I was going to look at fresh pet.
You can try PureBites freeze dried chicken, if Scout likes these you can buy the bigger bag for dogs and just break them up into smaller pieces, you'll get more for your money
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You can also just Google Freeze Dried Treats , there are a lot of different brands
You can also type in where it says search at the top of the page freeze dried treats and you will see other members post saying what they give their cats.


https://www.chewy.com/purebites-chi...MIsZWvm6Wz8gIVCInICh2DRQEfEAQYAiABEgJJgvD_BwE


Maybe you can get them in a local pet store , but I'm not sure
 
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