12/11 Oberon PMPS 86, +1 128, +2 121, +3 107, +4 109, +5 95, +6 142

I am sorry about the high numbers but relieved to hear he is his usual self to start the day :bighug:. Always nice when there is a fleeting and very short lived issue. He looks like I felt after some vending machine snacks yesterday....LOL!

Have a great Friday :)
 
That pic of Oberon yesterday showed similar signs of pain that I see in Butters' face and ears:(. I'm so glad he is back to his usual self this morning, even if his numbers are higher right now. Hopefully the R + Lantus combo brings him back down today.
Have a great day!:bighug:
 
Lisa & Oberon said:
I know a while ago I said I wanted to get down to a Lantus dose that needed to be supplemented with R, so maybe this is it?
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The IAA has broken. Two other possible reasons for the high numbers are Glucose toxicity or some underlying infection/inflammation. One is his teeth and gums, which we already discussed. Another is his history of pancreatitis. I personally don’t have experience with pancreatitis but could he be having a flare up? If so it could be causing him pain which can raise BG.
 
Sandy and Black Kitty said:
My $0.02-
The IAA has broken. Two other possible reasons for the high numbers are Glucose toxicity or some underlying infection/inflammation. One is his teeth and gums, which we already discussed. Another is his history of pancreatitis. I personally don’t have experience with pancreatitis but could he be having a flare up? If so it could be causing him pain which can raise BG.
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The teeth are a real possibility. He also spent some time yesterday and the day before shredding a cardboard box, so maybe his gums are sore from that. Pancreatitis is always a possibility as well, though so far I'm not seeing any other obvious signs of it. I think it's time to call the vet. He's also overdue for shots, so I'm thinking I'll start with my regular vet, who can do bloodwork, give the shots, and take a quick look at his teeth to see if there's anything obvious besides just needing a cleaning. I'll discuss the dental work with him, but if he's at all uncomfortable with doing it for a diabetic cat or doesn't do x-rays, I'll call the dental dept at the ER hospital.
 
Apparently the R threat wasn't enough... I had to threaten a vet visit to get him to come down. 275 at +4, so down about 120 from preshot. We'll see soon if this is just an R effect or the start of a dive.
 
Lisa & Oberon said:
He also spent some time yesterday and the day before shredding a cardboard box, so maybe his gums are sore from that.
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May not be the case for Oberon, but I discovered Ts desire to chew was part of his GI/pancreas issue. An integrative vet told me that cats will often do it to stimulate the gums as a means of helping digestion/stomach upset/discomfort/nausea. Sure enough, we saw that Ts desire to chew was in fact linked to after he ate (or not that long after) or when he was not feeling well. Otherwise, he is not a chewer at all. The interesting thing is his breeder told me she had to remove his Mom at one point because he chewed all the hair off of her tail when he was a kitten. I suspect my guy has probably always had some low level GI issue.

Again, this may not be the case for Oberon, but given the fact that he wasn’t right yesterday and then went to town on a box, it may be something to watch. Prior to the integrative vet no one mentioned that they will do this when there is an issue.
 
Oh, and when I say he shreds boxes... (Oberon, the “Chewy” label on the box isn’t a description!)

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Tomlin said:
May not be the case for Oberon, but I discovered Ts desire to chew was part of his GI/pancreas issue. An integrative vet told me that cats will often do it to stimulate the gums as a means of helping digestion/stomach upset/discomfort/nausea. Sure enough, we saw that Ts desire to chew was in fact linked to after he ate (or not that long after) or when he was not feeling well. Otherwise, he is not a chewer at all. The interesting thing is his breeder told me she had to remove his Mom at one point because he chewed all the hair off of her tail when he was a kitten. I suspect my guy has probably always had some low level GI issue.

Again, this may not be the case for Oberon, but given the fact that he wasn’t right yesterday and then went to town on a box, it may be something to watch. Prior to the integrative vet no one mentioned that they will do this when there is an issue.
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Thanks. He's been doing this his whole life. He destroyed the cardboard carrier he came home in when we adopted him ten years ago. We can't leave boxes unattended around him or they end up like this. Doesn't mean there's not something underlying it, but it's not new behavior.
 
Lisa & Oberon said:
Thanks. He's been doing this his whole life. He destroyed the cardboard carrier he came home in when we adopted him ten years ago. We can't leave boxes unattended around him or they end up like this. Doesn't mean there's not something underlying it, but it's not new behavior.
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Ts was not new behavior either but I never put it together until the integrative vet came & she immediately put it together. I just thought it was something he did once in awhile. He didn’t chew anything but things with bristles. So, like the brushes that you buy so they can rub their faces on them....that is his favorite to chew on. Looking back, he probably did it to soothe himself when he did not feel well......including chewing on his Moms tail. Poor guy!
 
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Oh my:eek:! Thank goodness it appears that he doesn’t ingest it :nailbiting:. It says “Chew”....:cool:
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Yeah, the first time he did it (day 2 in our house, I think) we rushed him to the vet because we thought he had a cardboard blockage. Turns out he was just a bit normally plugged up. He doesn't eat it, just rips it into little postage stamp-sized pieces. Any time we unpack a box we have to make sure to fold the flaps in so he can't get started. Sometimes we just leave a sacrificial box in a corner for him so he leaves others alone. He shreds it down to nothing. It gets a bit messy, but it could be worse. One of our old cats used to chew through cords. (blinds, electrical cords, computer power cables, the Christmas lights...)
 
Tomlin said:
Ts was not new behavior either but I never put it together until the integrative vet came & she immediately put it together. I just thought it was something he did once in awhile. He didn’t chew anything but things with bristles. So, like the brushes that you buy so they can rub their faces on them....that is his favorite to chew on. Looking back, he probably did it to soothe himself when he did not feel well......including chewing on his Moms tail. Poor guy!
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Interesting! I think Oberon's just destructive. :D But I do wonder about his gums.
 
I hope it’s just destructive and happy it’s not electrical :nailbiting::eek:!! Hope his gums are ok as well as
his digestive system :bighug:. Sometimes it’s just a process of elimination.
 
Right on schedule, clearing that bounce. Up now Oberon!

When you posted that picture of the box shredding, I thought of BK and his affection for paper towels. Glad Sandy posted the video. Maybe an IAA only kitty thing? :p
 
86 at PMPS (and he hadn't been fed since +9.5), so he got the full new dose of 4.5 U. Prepping for a potentially late night.
 
128 at +1. All he got to eat at PMPS was his regular LC stuff, but it looks like he's coming up already? Interesting.
 
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