11/29 Mr.Pants pmps 162 +2 75 +3.5 103

Zach Pool

Zach Pool

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Just got done traveling and levels dropped after meal. Finished 75% of meal and dropped to 147. Want to shoot .5 u.
 
Depending on how quickly after the meal you tested and got 147, it may not even have been enough time to see it’s effect, since carbs usually take 20-30 minutes to hit the blood stream, and 147 is effectively the same number as preshot. Looking at the trend from +8 to PMPS is more noteworthy, where he hit nadir and is on his way up to preshot. I’d stick with what you have as 0.6u, which you shot this morning.
 
I waited until I saw him going up. He was 167 and then I gave him his shot. It was a fat .5U if that makes sense. The width of the plungers are .5U and I mark them with a razor blade. What I call .6U is essentially drawing the insulin until the mark sits on top of the plunger. I sort of split the difference, as accurate as that can be. He also left a few bites of food so Im hoping that it works out in the way of keeping him in decent numbers. Will update.
 
Zach Pool said:
Just got done traveling and levels dropped after meal. Finished 75% of meal and dropped to 147. Want to shoot .5 u.
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I know you were gone but we try to not feed two hours before shot time unless the BG is in the 40s or lower and then it’s just a tiny bit. That’s because we don’t want the food to influence the BG you shoot. Of course, as Christie said, it takes about 30 minutes for food to influence the BG.

He dropped because it’s very common for Lantus to get a second dip at the end of a cycle. The second dip is not lower than the nadir which, today, was 117. It’s usually fine to shoot a second dip once you can identify it because the Lantus starts to wear off and the BG heads up. So you should see him head up and then you can shoot the full regular dose.

Here is the link to yesterday’s condo.
 
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Zach Pool said:
I waited until I saw him going up. He was 167 and then I gave him his shot. It was a fat .5U if that makes sense. The width of the plungers are .5U and I mark them with a razor blade. What I call .6U is essentially drawing the insulin until the mark sits on top of the plunger. I sort of split the difference, as accurate as that can be. He also left a few bites of food so Im hoping that it works out in the way of keeping him in decent numbers. Will update.
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Looks like we cross posted. You can edit the subject line to just show “11/29 Mr. Pants PMPS 167” and you can remove everything else including the “?” prefix unless you still have questions. Good job shooting.

Oh...and for the SS, you’ll put in the PMPS column “+12 155; +12.5 147; +13 167” and it will stack. Of course, put the correct + numbers in for those BGs as I’m just guessing. But the last BG will be the one we know you shot.

And if you ever don’t shoot, then in the “U” column, you put “NS”.

Thanks very much.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Looks like we cross posted. You can edit the subject line to just show “11/29 Mr. Pants PMPS 167” and you can remove everything else including the “?” prefix unless you still have questions. Good job shooting.

Oh...and for the SS, you’ll put in the PMPS column “+12 155; +12.5 147; +13 167” and it will stack. Of course, put the correct + numbers in for those BGs as I’m just guessing. But the last BG will be the one we know you shot.

And if you ever don’t shoot, then in the “U” column, you put “NS”.

Thanks very much.
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I got two numbers to fit
 
Ate the rest of our food about 15 minutes ago because I noticed our BG was flat and potentially moving back downward. He is however carrying around his mitten and delivered it to me as a prize lol. So at least he is feeling well.
 
Zach Pool said:
I got two numbers to fit
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They will all fit. it will just make the row taller.

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Still a safe number. How about feeding a couple of teaspoons of LC and test again at +3. He’s just having an active cycle, so as long as you can keep an eye on how the numbers are trending and feed a little as you go, you should be fine. If he’s flat at +3, great, feed a couple more bites of LC, if he’s still dropping, you can try some higher LC or MC.
 
Christie & Maverick said:
Still a safe number. How about feeding a couple of teaspoons of LC and test again at +3. He’s just having an active cycle, so as long as you can keep an eye on how the numbers are trending and feed a little as you go, you should be fine. If he’s flat at +3, great, feed a couple more bites of LC, if he’s still dropping, you can try some higher LC or MC.
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I have run to the store. It is 8 minutes away 16 minutes round trip. What Fancy feast LC do you recommend? Also what is mc? And thank you... He typically tends to drop through the third hour as well so I don't like our trend right now.
 
Any of the Fancy Feast pates are low carb. So beef, chicken, turkey & giblets, chicken & liver. The fancy feast grilled, (chicken, salmon turkey) are all around 12-13% carb so that’s in the medium carb range. The sliced is also around that 12-14%. The gravy lovers will be higher carb, 15-20% depending on the flavour.
 
Christie & Maverick said:
Any of the Fancy Feast pates are low carb. So beef, chicken, turkey & giblets, chicken & liver. The fancy feast grilled, (chicken, salmon turkey) are all around 12-13% carb so that’s in the medium carb range. The sliced is also around that 12-14%. The gravy lovers will be higher carb, 15-20% depending on the flavour.
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Okay, good to know. He is already on Fancy feast pate. I fed him the equivalent of a quarter of a can. Also ran to the store and picked up some tuna feast in gravy, grilled Fancy feast
 
Zach Pool said:
So my previous reading of 104 was technically at +1.5 ish......We are at a full +2 now and at 75....Im starting to get uneasy
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He looks like he can be a fast dropper early. I don’t know what % carbs you generally feed him but if it’s less than 4%, you might want to try higher like 6% all the time less he’s dropping fast early. Many cats do better on 6-10% calories from carbs.
 
Hahaha :D hopefully he'll be alright while I go grab a pizza...he hasn't fluctuated at all for half an hour. My other child is hungry. Thank you guys
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Nice +4. I wonder if that +2 was accurate?
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He does this....it's never this fast...until it is. That's why TR is so scary for me. If you look I technically gave him less insulin as well which does have the tendency to produce these results for me. It's wild. I feel like he gets pancreatic flare ups...they go away...then he needs less insulin seemingly out of nowhere. He's done this to me for five years and I really don't have an explanation.
 
Zach Pool said:
He does this....it's never this fast...until it is. That's why TR is so scary for me. If you look I technically gave him less insulin as well which does have the tendency to produce these results for me. It's wild. I feel like he gets pancreatic flare ups...they go away...then he needs less insulin seemingly out of nowhere. He's done this to me for five years and I really don't have an explanation.
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That could certainly happen if the pancreas is flaring then healing.

It’s not unusual for cats to drop fast. My own cat could really plummet. But usually the lower the BG to start, the less they drop.
 
Marje and Gracie said:
Nice +4. I wonder if that +2 was accurate?
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so, I have updated my spreadsheet to reflect exactly what's been going on...things have been super hectic around the house and its been difficult to get everything entered. Its quite a wild little surf....If I knew how to post pictures in these responses Id show you guys the readings. Now all we have to do is stay at a reasonable number for the next 8 hours and we should be good. LOL:banghead:
 
Marje and Gracie said:
That could certainly happen if the pancreas is flaring then healing.

It’s not unusual for cats to drop fast. My own cat could really plummet. But usually the lower the BG to start, the less they drop.
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Ive had him under an amazing regimen for the majority of the last five years. Before this last year, I was shooting an obscenely small amount that I would have to hold up to the sliding glass door or refrigerator light to even see. It would be hard to believe that it was even .25 u. I couldnt do a full .25u SID or else he would start climbing back up over the course of a week. Even when I was shooting that small amount @ 140-150 mg/dl he would remain flat maybe climb to 160-170.....then sometimes drop to 90 in an hour. Needless to say....Ive had more wild nights then I can imagine counting.
 
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