? 11/28- cat throwing up

Yogi_Bear

Yogi_Bear

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11/24

We upped bears dose back up to 0.5 a few days ago.. his numbers seem to be higher since the adjustment.. is this what they call “bouncing” ? (Ive saw the term on the forum, not sure if thats what it means..)

Is this typical when theres a dosage increase?
 
I am so very much not an expert, but I was just reading through What Is the Insulin Depot? to try and understand some things, and something that jumped out at me was:

Did you increase the dose? This can result in a change in the size of the depot and can lead to a temporary adjustment in the amount of insulin available for use. Did you decrease the dose recently? A dose reduction will usually result in a need for less stored insulin. The excess may be released into the bloodstream faster than usual, especially if several dose reductions are done back-to-back.
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If I'm reading that right, it might mean that sometimes an increase can lead to counterintuitively higher BG numbers during an adjustment period, and a decrease can lead to temporary lower numbers. (I'm still not entirely sure how this relates to "bouncing," except that it's all to do with your cat's body adjusting to change.)

Hopefully someone with more experience can chime in!
 
Going up after an increase is referred to here as new dose wonkiness. It happens generally on day two and briefly. I dint think that’s what is happening here. You just have not reached a breakthrough dose. What I see is that he’s basically flat as meters dampen vary by about 20% up or down. You actually don’t know how low he’s going at night but I suspect it’s about the same as during the day right now.
 
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Advice please:

My kitty just threw up a bit.. we upped his dose to 0.5 lantus 5 days ago..
Im just wondering what happens if i give him insulin and he throws up his food?
 
eddis said:
I am so very much not an expert, but I was just reading through What Is the Insulin Depot? to try and understand some things, and something that jumped out at me was:



If I'm reading that right, it might mean that sometimes an increase can lead to counterintuitively higher BG numbers during an adjustment period, and a decrease can lead to temporary lower numbers. (I'm still not entirely sure how this relates to "bouncing," except that it's all to do with your cat's body adjusting to change.)

Hopefully someone with more experience can chime in!
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Thank you 😇
 
tiffmaxee said:
Going up after an increase is referred to here as new dose wonkiness. It happens generally on day two and briefly. I dint think that’s what is happening here. You just have not reached a breakthrough dose. What I see is that he’s basically flat as meters dampen vary by about 20% up or down. You actually don’t know how low he’s going at night but I suspect it’s about the same as during the day right now.
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Yes we are still trying to figure all this out 😅
 
Hi, I'm wondering why you skipped the shot tonight? You've shot similar numbers before...

Like Elise said, he hasn't gotten to a good dose yet. Would you be comfortable following TR? That will help you get him to a good dose sooner. You could always switch back to SLGS once you start seeing better numbers and if you feel TR isn't for you.
 
Sorry no one responded to this earlier. I guess this is the reason you skipped tonight's shot?

Did he eat? Any more pukes? What did the puke look like? Was there a long gap between meals? Some cats throw up due to stomach acid build-up if there is a long gap.

The onset of Lantus is typically 2 hours after the shot, so you have that much time to get food into him.
 
Bandit's Mom said:
Sorry no one responded to this earlier. I guess this is the reason you skipped tonight's shot?

Did he eat? Any more pukes? What did the puke look like? Was there a long gap between meals? Some cats throw up due to stomach acid build-up if there is a long gap.

The onset of Lantus is typically 2 hours after the shot, so you have that much time to get food into him.
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Yes i was just coming to link this post to the previous thread!

Yes this was the reason for the skip.. im sure it would have been fine, but this was the first time it happened so i was a bit nervous and was worried he wouldn’t eat or throw it up right away.. so i decided to skip and see how he does before am shot.

He had lunch around 330pm and he puked at 830pm, next meal & dose would have been at 930pm.
It looked like his lunch but liquid, no hairball. He has chicken friskies pate earlier. He always eats 9am/330 and 9pm. He used to throw up before occasionally when he would eat too much kibble too fast, but hasnt since we switched him off dry food.

He hasnt thrown up again, and ate about 3/4 of his pm meal but not as much as he usually eats.

I was concerned about not being able to get food in him/or him throwing it up after giving his pm shot.
What would normally be recommended in this case?
 
Some cats do a scarf and barf. Eat too fast then throw up. Regardless of why they threw up, wait 20-30 minutes then feed small amounts at a time. Make sure he keeps it down, then feed again.

Even diabetic cats undergoing anaesthesia who cannot eat, can still get a half dose of insulin. Insulin does a lot more in the cat's body that counter the carbs in their food. It's food for cells and the brain. Bear's numbers are high enough that you probably need not have skipped insulin. Since you did skip and you say he's not as hungry, I'd try to get a ketones test when you can.
 
Regarding the question on the dose, we dose based on how low the dose is taking the cat. Without more data after the preshot - typically the high point - we can't answer that question. If you can't get daytime mid day tests, try to get those before bed tests at night which will give us a clue if he's going lower, then bouncing.
 
Wendy&Neko said:
Some cats do a scarf and barf. Eat too fast then throw up. Regardless of why they threw up, wait 20-30 minutes then feed small amounts at a time. Make sure he keeps it down, then feed again.

Even diabetic cats undergoing anaesthesia who cannot eat, can still get a half dose of insulin. Insulin does a lot more in the cat's body that counter the carbs in their food. It's food for cells and the brain. Bear's numbers are high enough that you probably need not have skipped insulin. Since you did skip and you say he's not as hungry, I'd try to get a ketones test when you can.
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Thank you! He did throw up a bit of bile over night but nothing too substantial.
He was very eager for his breakfast this morning!
I am very worried about the ketones.. i am going to try and get strips today. Do the pharmacies in canada sell the blood ketone meters? I am really worried about not being able to collect a urine sample.. should i bring him to the vet for a urine test?
 
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