11/16 Mikey PMPS +11/+8 BG 371
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julie & punkin (ga)
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Re: 3 shots today by mistake
do you have high carb cat food as well?
edited to add - and do you have plenty of test strips at home? i see your spreadsheet & it looks like you've only tested a couple of times. is that right - are you able to test, ie, can you do it?
do you have high carb cat food as well?
edited to add - and do you have plenty of test strips at home? i see your spreadsheet & it looks like you've only tested a couple of times. is that right - are you able to test, ie, can you do it?
Re: 3 shots today by mistake
Please get a test every hour. If numbers start to drop, you will need to test more often.
Please get a test every hour. If numbers start to drop, you will need to test more often.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 3 shots today by mistake
What time zone are you in?
What time zone are you in?
miso00
Member Since 2011
Re: 3 shots today by mistake
I only just got him on sunday night. I just got the test kit last night so i just started to test him last night. I have plenty of test strips. I am in NY, Eastern time zone. Will be up tonight as I am worried about him. This is my first time with a diabetic cat. I just now tested him BG was 339.
I only just got him on sunday night. I just got the test kit last night so i just started to test him last night. I have plenty of test strips. I am in NY, Eastern time zone. Will be up tonight as I am worried about him. This is my first time with a diabetic cat. I just now tested him BG was 339.
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 3 shots today by mistake
do you have high carb canned cat food as well?
can you get a test now and post it in your subject line? edit the first post in this thread and add to the subject line - you're at +5/+2 (that's 5 hrs from the first shot and 2 hours from the second shot, right?) and then put the test #.
do you have high carb canned cat food as well?
can you get a test now and post it in your subject line? edit the first post in this thread and add to the subject line - you're at +5/+2 (that's 5 hrs from the first shot and 2 hours from the second shot, right?) and then put the test #.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: 3 shots today by mistake
Initiation by fire!
So, you are coming up on +5 - please try and get a test
Initiation by fire!
So, you are coming up on +5 - please try and get a test
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
Great!
I agree with SIenne, you will have to test every hour for safety's sake.
Do you have some cans of high carb (18% or higher) food on hand? How about karo, honey or even pancake syrup?
Great!
I agree with SIenne, you will have to test every hour for safety's sake.
Do you have some cans of high carb (18% or higher) food on hand? How about karo, honey or even pancake syrup?
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
i wouldn't - you're looking at a mighty high number right now.
the concern is that the first shot will have a nadir (the low point of blood sugar) at the same time as the second shot will onset (begin to become effective.)
we don't give high carbs until the blood sugar is down to about 50, unless we're seeing a really fast drop that looks like it might go below 50.
i saw in your other post that you said that someone recommended you give dry food overnight. dry food takes too long to get into their system to be helpful in raising a low blood sugar, and then it stays in their system for a long time. personally, i'd do what is suggested above, test every hour and keep posting numbers like you did above.
what you are looking for is a blood sugar that's dropping below 50. 50 isn't a crisis, but it's when we begin to treat.
i wouldn't - you're looking at a mighty high number right now.
the concern is that the first shot will have a nadir (the low point of blood sugar) at the same time as the second shot will onset (begin to become effective.)
we don't give high carbs until the blood sugar is down to about 50, unless we're seeing a really fast drop that looks like it might go below 50.
i saw in your other post that you said that someone recommended you give dry food overnight. dry food takes too long to get into their system to be helpful in raising a low blood sugar, and then it stays in their system for a long time. personally, i'd do what is suggested above, test every hour and keep posting numbers like you did above.
what you are looking for is a blood sugar that's dropping below 50. 50 isn't a crisis, but it's when we begin to treat.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
No. I just wanted to know you are prepared, in case you need to intervene.
Since it's possible you may need to intervene, you want to make sure kitty is on the hungry side.
That way he will eat if and when you need him to.
No. I just wanted to know you are prepared, in case you need to intervene.
Since it's possible you may need to intervene, you want to make sure kitty is on the hungry side.
That way he will eat if and when you need him to.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
You also want to look for a very fast drop. You can give a little extra LC food to slow fast dropping numbers. Just a little, You don;t want him to get too full and not want to eat if he goes lower.
You also want to look for a very fast drop. You can give a little extra LC food to slow fast dropping numbers. Just a little, You don;t want him to get too full and not want to eat if he goes lower.
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
I usually don't recommend this but if he does have a really fast drop and the HC gravy does not slow him down, give him a little karo.
If he gets to where he drops quickly or low and you give him HC or karo and his numbers pop up, don't be fooled!! HC food/gravy and karo wear off and the numbers can come back down on you.
I usually don't recommend this but if he does have a really fast drop and the HC gravy does not slow him down, give him a little karo.
If he gets to where he drops quickly or low and you give him HC or karo and his numbers pop up, don't be fooled!! HC food/gravy and karo wear off and the numbers can come back down on you.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
For tomorrow, you need to wait 12 hours from the last shot before giving the 1st shot of the day.
So, no earlier than 9:40am, numbers permitting.
If your schedule wont allow you to wait until that time, then skip it and get back on schedule in the PM.
For tomorrow, you need to wait 12 hours from the last shot before giving the 1st shot of the day.
So, no earlier than 9:40am, numbers permitting.
If your schedule wont allow you to wait until that time, then skip it and get back on schedule in the PM.
Re: at +5/+2 BG 339
I agree with Sandy. It won't hurt to skip if you have to and let that shed drain a little bit.
Having said that, if he is at a number 200 or higher at 9:40, I'd shoot his 1.5u. If he's in the 150-200 range, don't feed, post and ask for help.
ETA: Jennifer...can you please keep posting his numbers every hour? Thanks. Change the subject line to 11/16 Mikey PMPS (whatever it was) and then like you are doing it +5/+2 339. Those of us helping will understand what that means.
I agree with Sandy. It won't hurt to skip if you have to and let that shed drain a little bit.
Having said that, if he is at a number 200 or higher at 9:40, I'd shoot his 1.5u. If he's in the 150-200 range, don't feed, post and ask for help.
ETA: Jennifer...can you please keep posting his numbers every hour? Thanks. Change the subject line to 11/16 Mikey PMPS (whatever it was) and then like you are doing it +5/+2 339. Those of us helping will understand what that means.
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
So 297 is ok for both +6/+3. Good job...you ok still testing every hour? If you have an alarm on your phone, you can sleep/test. Just be sure you can wake up every hour to test. It's either that or lots of
Still trying to find someone who can be up with you.
So 297 is ok for both +6/+3. Good job...you ok still testing every hour? If you have an alarm on your phone, you can sleep/test. Just be sure you can wake up every hour to test. It's either that or lots of
Still trying to find someone who can be up with you.
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
Jennifer:
Ann (Tess) will be up for quite a bit yet and will keep checking on you. My husband, Mike, will also be up with Gracie and will check in on you, too.
Jennifer:
Ann (Tess) will be up for quite a bit yet and will keep checking on you. My husband, Mike, will also be up with Gracie and will check in on you, too.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
I think that was a tupo Marge. Have you tested again? This should be 6 hours after your first shot and 3 hours after the second right. it's really important to get tests for the next few hours. The first dose will be at nadir and the second just starting to kick in. This is where you need to keep close watch. The good thing is I think you said his dose was just reduced? That will give a little lee way.
I think that was a tupo Marge. Have you tested again? This should be 6 hours after your first shot and 3 hours after the second right. it's really important to get tests for the next few hours. The first dose will be at nadir and the second just starting to kick in. This is where you need to keep close watch. The good thing is I think you said his dose was just reduced? That will give a little lee way.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
Hold on the HC until we see what is happening. If a fast drop you can use a little HC or a little LC to slow things down. If and when he gets really low then definitely some HC.
Hold on the HC until we see what is happening. If a fast drop you can use a little HC or a little LC to slow things down. If and when he gets really low then definitely some HC.
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
hi jennifer,
sounds like ann is going to stay up with you. you're doing a great job of monitoring mikey!
i just want to make sure you have this post in case no one is on and you have lower numbers and need help. you can bookmark it so if you ever need it, you've got it. you'll no doubt need it in the future!
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=46003&p=614346#p614346
hi jennifer,
sounds like ann is going to stay up with you. you're doing a great job of monitoring mikey!
i just want to make sure you have this post in case no one is on and you have lower numbers and need help. you can bookmark it so if you ever need it, you've got it. you'll no doubt need it in the future!
http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=46003&p=614346#p614346
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +6/+3 BG 297
Jennifer, I'm up for you if you need help. What's the latest BG?
Jennifer, I'm up for you if you need help. What's the latest BG?
miso00
Member Since 2011
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
I was trying to get the test. He was very agitated so it took long. His BG was 194. I am very nervous. It was hard for me to prick him and then I couldn't stop the bleeding. He is not a happy camper. It seems when he is hungry he gets more agitated. I had to give him some food to calm him down so I could distract him to prick his ear.
I was trying to get the test. He was very agitated so it took long. His BG was 194. I am very nervous. It was hard for me to prick him and then I couldn't stop the bleeding. He is not a happy camper. It seems when he is hungry he gets more agitated. I had to give him some food to calm him down so I could distract him to prick his ear.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
Don't get upset, when we get nervous they can tella nd the get more nervous too. Just breathe deeply and pet him for a little .
Giving food at this point is good. What did you feed him? I don't think HC is needed yet, but if that 's what you gave him it's fine. Sometimes LC will slow them down and sometime you need a little more.
Don't get upset, when we get nervous they can tella nd the get more nervous too. Just breathe deeply and pet him for a little .
Giving food at this point is good. What did you feed him? I don't think HC is needed yet, but if that 's what you gave him it's fine. Sometimes LC will slow them down and sometime you need a little more.
miso00
Member Since 2011
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
I'm upset because this was all human error and it's already been hard enough for him to be here adjusting to new surroundings, new food, new cats. To think he has to go through all this makes me feel horrible. It is also a huge learning experience, which is why I wanted to start helping diabetic cats. A situation like this was what I was most fearful of but now it has jump started me into learning more immediately. While I'm up I've had time to read a lot of posts and learned a huge amount of information in a little time.
His BG at 2:04 was 194. I fed him friskies pate which I was told is LC. He is relaxing now. I have noticed but now I know for sure how much calmer he is after he eats and just before he eats he is not so nice.
I'm upset because this was all human error and it's already been hard enough for him to be here adjusting to new surroundings, new food, new cats. To think he has to go through all this makes me feel horrible. It is also a huge learning experience, which is why I wanted to start helping diabetic cats. A situation like this was what I was most fearful of but now it has jump started me into learning more immediately. While I'm up I've had time to read a lot of posts and learned a huge amount of information in a little time.
His BG at 2:04 was 194. I fed him friskies pate which I was told is LC. He is relaxing now. I have noticed but now I know for sure how much calmer he is after he eats and just before he eats he is not so nice.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
Get another test an hour after the last one.
Food works wonders. I always give Tess her shots while she is eating, otherwise it is really difficult. You might try giving him a snack while you test him. Tess loves freeze dries chicken. We call it kitty crack around here. And be sure to give a treat after every test. whether it works or not. They associate tests w/ treats and now Tess sits and purrs through the shot waiting for her treat.
Jennifer it is so great that you adopted Mikey! Believe me . we have all made mistakes, drawn the wrong dose, missed shots, forgotten to test. This is another learning experience. Others have sat up with us through similar nights, you and Mikey will be fine. Nadir is often at +4 to six so you are close to nadir for the second shot and past for the first. To be safe you need to keep testing, but these numbers are still very safe.
Get another test an hour after the last one.
Food works wonders. I always give Tess her shots while she is eating, otherwise it is really difficult. You might try giving him a snack while you test him. Tess loves freeze dries chicken. We call it kitty crack around here. And be sure to give a treat after every test. whether it works or not. They associate tests w/ treats and now Tess sits and purrs through the shot waiting for her treat.
Jennifer it is so great that you adopted Mikey! Believe me . we have all made mistakes, drawn the wrong dose, missed shots, forgotten to test. This is another learning experience. Others have sat up with us through similar nights, you and Mikey will be fine. Nadir is often at +4 to six so you are close to nadir for the second shot and past for the first. To be safe you need to keep testing, but these numbers are still very safe.
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
Hey, Mike here. I'm still up with Gracie and will be for a while. Looks like Mikey onset from the second shot. Dropping 50 per hour is kind of medium speed, at least it was for Gracie. But he is still at a very safe number. Are you testing again at +6?
Hey, Mike here. I'm still up with Gracie and will be for a while. Looks like Mikey onset from the second shot. Dropping 50 per hour is kind of medium speed, at least it was for Gracie. But he is still at a very safe number. Are you testing again at +6?
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
There is so much to take in with FD, son't beat yourself up about this. I'm up and you have all you need on hand to take good care of him.
I'll be back in a bit, I have to test Tess. She is liking the really low numbers tonight.
There is so much to take in with FD, son't beat yourself up about this. I'm up and you have all you need on hand to take good care of him.
I'll be back in a bit, I have to test Tess. She is liking the really low numbers tonight.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
Re: 11/16 Mikey PMPS +8/+5 BG 194
Any new tests?
Sorry I didn't see you posted in between mine. Are you talking about the Wellness jerky treats? I know of members who feed them and they have no effect on bg.
Some members feed small pieces of boiled chicken, bonito flakes and there are a lot of other freeze dried treats too: shrimp, tuna fish live salmon.
Any new tests?
Sorry I didn't see you posted in between mine. Are you talking about the Wellness jerky treats? I know of members who feed them and they have no effect on bg.
Some members feed small pieces of boiled chicken, bonito flakes and there are a lot of other freeze dried treats too: shrimp, tuna fish live salmon.
Ann & Tess GA
Member Since 2010
What time is it there nearly 6am? You must be totally exhausted! I'd do one more test to make sure that last test was a good reading. If Mikey is still up get a few hours sleep and test again just before shot time. I'm toast too and it's only 3am here.
Mikey is bouncing now from not being used to getting into the lower numbers, He may continue up or level off. His numbers tonight never put him in danger, but we couldn't be sure where he was going.
You did great tonight, hanging in there w/ your new furbaby. Mikey has a great new home. Ni Ni
Mikey is bouncing now from not being used to getting into the lower numbers, He may continue up or level off. His numbers tonight never put him in danger, but we couldn't be sure where he was going.
You did great tonight, hanging in there w/ your new furbaby. Mikey has a great new home. Ni Ni
Jennifer --
It looks like you did great last night! You'll want to start a new thread (we call then condos) for today.
We encourage you to change your subject line when you get new test data. The only way to make your subject line visible on the Board is to edit your first post in the thread. You go to that post and click on the "Edit" button. You make the change to the subject line, then click on "Submit." You probably noticed that whenever you add a new post to the thread, your condo is bumped to the top of the Board. Both having current information in the subject line and bumping up your condo are very important if there's an emergency. Many of us scan the Board to make sure there's nothing noteworthy happening having current test data in your subject line is very helpful.
It looks like you did great last night! You'll want to start a new thread (we call then condos) for today.
We encourage you to change your subject line when you get new test data. The only way to make your subject line visible on the Board is to edit your first post in the thread. You go to that post and click on the "Edit" button. You make the change to the subject line, then click on "Submit." You probably noticed that whenever you add a new post to the thread, your condo is bumped to the top of the Board. Both having current information in the subject line and bumping up your condo are very important if there's an emergency. Many of us scan the Board to make sure there's nothing noteworthy happening having current test data in your subject line is very helpful.
Sandy and Black Kitty
Member Since 2009
Morning! Great Job!
Just title your condo -
11/17 - Mikey AMPS/xxx
(xxx being your BG number)
edited to add - for continuity, place a link to the previous days condo in the body of your first post of the day
Great job Jennifer!!!! You did it!!!! These numbers ought to let you get a little rest.
Anne & Zener GA
Member Since 2011
Well done, Jennifer! Wow, what a night. You are an angel to adopt Mikey. He is one lucky kitty.
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