10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128,+5=105,+6=96

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Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

Yay for a yellow night. I hope you or your DH gets to see some yellow and some blue today. Good job, Jaye.
 
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Thanks! I'm pretty nervous about the day...and about DH taking care of him for the day!
 
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You're lucky you have someone who can stay and watch him. I just have to leave for the entire day. I can't even come home for lunch. Does your hubby test?
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

Good for Chester...surfing some yellows for ya.

Glad your DH will be home today to help out w/Chester.

Have a good one.
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

Yup, he tests. He's not totally comfortable with it and they both get a little stressed out so I have to take that into consideration when I see the numbers. I put a little Neosporin w/pain control on Chester's ears to ease them a bit...poor boy has been tested within an inch of his life in the last couple of days.

Frustration last night...I took him in a room and laid with him on the floor, waiting with my Ketostix for him to pee...I was ready to catch it...

Woke up to him scratching in the litterbox just as he covered it up! GRRRRR.....

I'm going to get a ketone reading before I leave in 15 minutes and a +1 reading. After that it's out of my hands.
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

Damn! Ketones are up from yesterday's number of 0.8 to 0.9 this morning. Hubby will keep a good eye on him today.
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

oh chester ... you need your magical poops today!!! I hope you come down, and I hope the trace ketone number comes down as well ... have a great day guys!
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383

Well I was happy to see those yellows last night. Good job testing...and lying on the floor next to him. Kinda amusing when you read that he finished before you even knew it. they are sly. I put Shadow in the bathroom all by himself. I covered the LB with Saran Wrap and gave him tuna water. Every time I went in there to check on hi, he looked sooo sad though. As if he was being punished. I felt bad but then he finally went and with the saran wrap on top of the littler, I was able to get a puddle to test.
I soon was able to catch it when he went, but like YOU, waiting for them to go is the trick.
I hope the ketones can be flushed out a little with the extra water....and if the numbers go lower, it will be sooo good to see. Will he drink the tuna water? I know, tuna oil and tuna water seem to be in all my posts lately....but if they like it, both work for different purposes.

Come on down Chester!!! Glad your DH will be checking him today. that must put your mind at ease. Hope you have a good one Jaye...
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383,+5=302

Chester still hadn't pooped by 10:00 so I made an appt for the vets for 12:40 to palpate and see if he was, indeed, stopped up. They were planning on keeping him the rest of the afternoon. I wasn't too crazy about the idea...more stress/higher numbers. Just in time...HE POOPED! DH said it was a "regular looking, somewhat large and somewhat harder poop." Imaging me trying to pin him down on that specific info about poop! :-D

His BG is still higher at +5 then I would like it, though...but it's early on the new dose, right? And he had just pooped about 20 minutes before. DH said he is active and playing and "looks fine." No more specific than that, I'm afraid... *sigh*

Vet said to give some fluids again tonight and keep the Miralax going for a couple days until we're pretty sure he's going back to his regular pooping. (How many times can I write poop in one post?)

I need to get the tuna in oil...didn't have any last night so put some regular veggie oil in his snack. He didn't seem to mind it.

Good news that she said the Miralax would be perfectly fine and a good idea for my chronically constipated FIV kitty (Ping) as well! WhhoooHooo for Miralax!
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=320, AMPS 383,+5=301

I'm really worried that Chester didn't make it into the yellows today. I'm thinking that the fluids did the trick for him last night, but worried that it didn't hold over through today. How worried should I be? He'll get more fluids tonight.
 
Re: 10/12 Chester's +11=422

Well, now I'm pretty upset. My husband, who came home to "help" today...walked the dogs before I got home and left the bowl of kibble open. There's no doubt by his numbers that Chester got into it....exactly what we didn't need to have happen right now. Not much I can do after the fact. As soon as I saw the open bowl I immediately gave him the fluids he was going to get tonight. Last night he was lower after fluids.

I'm so upset...but there's nothing I can do.
 
Re: *#@* 10/12 Chester's +11=422

(((Jaye))) well, i for one am happy that it was the kibble. I read your header and my heart sank...really bad.
Then, i read about the kibble and I felt a little lighter somehow. :razz:
The carbo freaks have no self control, do they?
that is a temporary thing. (of course if he was at 30 and you gave it to him it would take forever to bring him up, right?)
That just figures, doesn't it???
I think the sheer enjoyment of eating the forbidden food raise them even higher... :-|
 
Re: *#@* 10/12 Chester's +11=422

Sorry I scared you. I think I scared hubby too because he is totally in the dog house (if I actually had a dog house). I can't really get after him too much because of course it was an accident. But an accident from carelessness, so I'm mad....very mad. However, if Chester gets bad ketones now that he's high I'll feel horrible with Hubby thinking he's to blame.

I'm so scared about the ketones...hence the fluids. He's walking around like the hunchback of Notre Dame (or I should say "dripping" around).

I feel like we've just negated any progress whatsoever. I want to up the dose....I know I won't, but I want to! Meanwhile, Chester is standing here licking my plastic bags from the store.

Wish I could get the others NOT to eat kibble! It's mainly for the CRF cat..I know, bad stuff for CRF, but he's getting skinnier and won't eat much else.
 
Re: BLUE??? 10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128

Gee, wonder what's going on now?

I used to like to ride rollercoasters...but this one is no fun.

Right before PMPS we thought he got in the kibble with a BG of 426 (and an open bowl of kibble). Gave him fluids right away. That was approximately 5 hours ago. He also had a poop at about 9:30 this morning. Tonight was began his third cycle on 1.5 units.

And we end up with a drop to BLUE at +4 ? How did that happen? Should I be concerned? Will this (hopefully) help the trace (or less than trace) ketone situation?

He's a happy little cuss tonight, that's for sure. Dropping everything he can find at my feet. :-D
 
Re: BLUE??? 10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128

Ummmm........ Not to belabor a point but you weren't happy with the pink. You certainly weren't happy with the PMPS. And now you're with worried about the blue? I thought you'd be ecstatic. It may be that Chester didn't get into the kibble (or maybe he did) and the red was a high before a break.

Lower BG values and fluids will help with the ketones. Just keep the issue of fluids in focus -- they may artificially lower BG numbers. The additional fluid acts to dilute the blood and anything that's in it -- like glucose or ketones. In addition, you may not see an immediate response to fluids in a urinary ketone level. The bladder stores urine until Chester feels the urge to pee. Urine may be there for several hours. Depending on how long it takes for the fluid to be processed and get to the bladder, the ketone reading from this morning may not reflect the influence of the fluids. This is the reason that urine blood glucose tests are unreliable.
 
Re: BLUE??? 10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128

Sienne and Gabby said:
Ummmm........ Not to belabor a point but you weren't happy with the pink. You certainly weren't happy with the PMPS. And now you're with worried about the blue? I thought you'd be ecstatic.
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I know...makes me sound even more neurotic than I probably am. I'm mainly just concerned that it was such a far drop in a pretty short time...and maybe that it's too good to be true!

It may be that Chester didn't get into the kibble (or maybe he did) and the red was a high before a break.
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True, we didn't witness it...it was just the open container (which he seems to have a radar for) and the high pmps. If he didn't get into it, that lets DH off the hook.

Just keep the issue of fluids in focus -- they may artificially lower BG numbers.
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So I shouldn't be totally surprised if his numbers really start to creep back up tonight?

The additional fluid acts to dilute the blood and anything that's in it -- like glucose or ketones. In addition, you may not see an immediate response to fluids in a urinary ketone level. The bladder stores urine until Chester feels the urge to pee. Urine may be there for several hours. Depending on how long it takes for the fluid to be processed and get to the bladder, the ketone reading from this morning may not reflect the influence of the fluids. This is the reason that urine blood glucose tests are unreliable.
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I'm rarely successful in getting urinary ketone checks. Last night I fell asleep "guarding" the litterbox only to be awakened by the sound of him scratching...as he covered the pee I was so anxious to save! The tests I've done on Chester lately have been blood ketone tests. I don't know why it's scarier to wait for the "official" number than it is to look at the stick, but it sure seems that way to me.

I'm going to test again in about 10 minutes, just so we have no surprises. I gave him a little snack at +4 after the test.
 
Re: ADVICE on BLUE??? 10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128,+10=1

I must have missed your answer when I asked a day or so ago if you were testing blood ketones. The meter is definitely more accurate.

I think you mean that your last test was a +5, not a +10. The +5 tells you it's a real number. What you will need to do, though is get at least one more test to see where this is going. It is a big drop so there's momentum behind the numbers. You just don't want to go to sleep if Chester's numbers are still heading down. If you do need to get to sleep and numbers are not in a comfortable place, you can leave out some MC food.
 
Re: ADVICE on BLUE??? 10/12 Chester's PMPS 426,+4=128,+10=1

Yup, it was a +5. I just fed him a good snack of LC and he ate cheerfully. That is SO much nicer than the way he's been the past couple of days. I'll check him again in a bit and decided whether it's sleep or no sleep.
 
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