1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12am

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Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-(

Good Morning,
I just happened to wake up and thought ...get a +5, maybe she's gone down. Not.. So wanna up to 1 U
I checked for ketones. Neg. Thank God for that. She's a bit upset with me, because I keep giving her
extra water. Hope everyone and their's has a a wonderful day.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-(

Shelly --

Is the clindamycin a pill or a liquid? If it's a liquid, find out if it's in a sugar syrup base. Many of them are so the bitter taste of the antibiotic is masked. A lot of vets, especially if this isn't Boots regular vet, forget they're dealing with a diabetic cat.

If Boots tends to have diarrhea when on ABs, you might want to thing about adding FortiFlora to his food.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-(

Hi Sienna,
I looked at ingredients. All I see is clindamycin and ethyl alcohol 8.64% The vet actually was the one who first saw boots for
her diabetes. Not her current vet. she did asked for her spread sheet and on the phone before prescribing, asked if I'd done a
curve and what her sugars were. so I don't think see or think it's sugar based.

She on the probiotics..actually started those the week before. Good timing! huh?

Thanks Sienna

PS. She has her on such a low dose of the clindamycin. 1mg., twice a day. Is that enough?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-(

Morning guys sorry about the jump up, hopefully Boots will come down tonight. Hope the ab's kick in soon. Have a happy Caturday and know you are doing all you can for Boots, your doing great!
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

Boots is ready for her PM. shot and her BS's are 350. She now won't eat and is really tired. She always
eats. Do you think I should take her to the vet? They just did a complete physical on her and she was fine.
It's like ever since I took her to the vet she's been going down hill. Skin issue was there, but now her hair is falling out
and of course the BS's.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

J.D. started Clindamycin for his dental yesterday, too.
Have you checked Boots for ketones?
I bet it's just the antibiotics that are affecting his appetite.
I would keep the same dose for the 6 cycles.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

Dyana,
Is that the amount JD's on? Boots is 14 lb. The vet wasn't the vet that saw her last week and said she was giving her a low dose because she hadn't seen her.
Booty seems weak. I can just tell she really doesn't feel good.
How is JD acting on the Clindamycin?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

No, J.D. is on 2ML twice a day, but his dental is on Monday, so coming up quick nailbite_smile and they did ask J.D.'s weight which is 12lbs 8oz today, however they may have him on a higher dose because he only gets 5 doses and then he has the dental.

I gave J.D. an appetite stimulant last night before I even went to pick up the prescription because I thought his eating was off a bit, and I will give it to him again, if his appetite wains, especially if I have to leave him to go to work. He just had a little bit wet poo, but I am giving him FortiFlora to try to help with that, and to put the good bacteria back in him.

Is Boots acting interested in his food and then walking away from it?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

No. She wants nothing to do with it. Her appetite was waning last night and completely stopped today. She is a foody, so I know she really doesn't feel well.
I checked for ketones at 5AM. Neg. I'll check again. Have her on fortaFlora. I feed evo/turkey-chicken
and raw w/tcfeline-premix. She usually can't get enough of the raw.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 :-( ADVISE??

Did the vet do blood work and/or any other tests like a urinalysis?

If you feel like you should take her to the vet, then do so. I've done it on several occasions, for peace of mind, if nothing else.
Maybe, they can give you an appetite stimulant like cyproheptadine to help her to eat. But you don't want to give her an appetite stimulant if she has nausea. That's why I was asked whether she seemed to have an interest in food and then walked away from it. Some cats will sniff the food and then lick their lips and walk away, like the food makes them feel nauseas.

Sending eating vines and feel better vines to Boots.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 PMPS 350

The good news I think is I'm an idiot. I've been adding to the BS problem. I started giving her another probiotic Probios and I just read the ingredients..sucrose is one of them, the first one. Why would anyone put sugar in a probiotic? It wasn't listed as an ingredient online, only the active cultures were. So I didn't think to look on the container it's self when I got it. Now that's a fupa on my part. I should know better after all these years, plus I'm an ingredients freak. Humbled once again :oops:

It's not the only reason BS's are going up, but definatly has made them higher. Her BS's were already at 226 before I even started the Probios. They started going rising on the night of the 15th and I didn't start the probios until the 17th, in the evening. it explains the 300's I think. she's not liking the fortiflora. I think it's the smell. she liked it at first I have some human probiotics, pretty simple acidophiles mostly. Doesn't have the Enterococcus faecium. Maybe when she feels better she'll take to the FortiFlora again. I'll go check on her. I have her the bathroom with a gravel pee-box
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 PMPS 350

Is she eating, yet? I'd try a different flavor until you find something she's in the mood for.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots AMPS 338 +5 373 PMPS 350

She's doing that walk away thing. I think she's nauseas. Dyana, thanks so much for being there with me and Boots.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +3 350 Update

Boots is going in for consult and possible procedure tomorrow Sunday.... 9:30 AM
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +3 350 Update

Shelly --

Make sure they have done pre-procedure blood work. If you're concerned that something unrelated to the sugary probiotic is effecting Boots, you definitely need labs done. No vet wants to do surgery on a cat that may be sick. My vet runs labs if the cat hasn't had labs done within 2 mos.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

You're going to the Dental Specialist?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

Thanks Sienne,
She had all her pre-procedure blood work done last weekend. I brought her in because I had heard a grinding sound in her mouth.
Everything came back great. They even said she tested as good as a non-diabetic and they were amazed at my job of keeping her so stable.
Thanks to this board. There were no signs of infection, but the grinding was a concern and the vet said that she had advanced mouth disease, so she recommended I take her to a dental specialist. When things escalated so fast, I called and they happen to have an opening tomorrow.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

Yes Dyana,
My reg. vet was opened today, so they were able to send her chart over. I explained everything to the Dental Specialist. She comes highly
recommended by my vet. She's eating. I think they can see what going on in her mouth and then assess treatment according to her strenth.
I'm worried. I just don't know what else to do. The next avail. app. (only a consult is Tues.(nothing else) and the Specialist wouldn't be back until the 30th.
so they wouldn't be able to do anything until the 30th. Do you think it's a bad idea? I think they would know not to put her under if she wasn't able,
don't you think?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

Just tell them what you know. Let them decide. It may be that her mouth is bothering her to the point eating is a problem. Of course, since you need to not feed tomorrow, at least it's not like you're going to have a cat giving you dirty looks.

Had you thought about getting some baby food? That doesn't take any chewing and depending on what they'll be doing tomorrow, it may not be a bad idea to have some on hand.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

I'm going through the same thoughts, as our dental is Monday. So my tummy is getting a little topsy turvy too.
I'm sure they do everything they can to make sure she's safe, and if they think there will be a problem beforehand, they will tell you.

I'm sending good dental vines and fast recovery vines to Boots for tomorrow.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 +2 356 +2 350 +3 305 **Update

Good idea Sienne regarding baby food. also I can run her food through processor again, make it baby food consistency. Thanks

Ahh thanks Dyana,
I'll be keeping you and Gabby in my prayers along with Boots. I even called my pastor to pray :lol:
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12a

OK..I have a 9:30 app. for consult and pos. mouth surgery. Dose advise. Should I stay with the .75 for 12AM. shot?
Dental Specialist said to continue all med.s tonight.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12a

12 AM? Do you mean midnight or noon? If you mean noon, then chances are Boots will be missing that shot if they do the procedure. If you mean midnight, go ahead and shoot. (If you mean midnight, is that your AMPS?)

Did the vet say anything about food tomorrow?
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12a

Should I do the point .75 new dose? Normal amount tonight and 1/4 tomorrow.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12a

Good luck...hope it goes well and Boots feels better soon.
 
Re: 1/19 Boots PMPS 350 1/20 dent/pos. surg. dos. advise 12a

Oops ... food,,,, normal amount tonight and 1/4 (food) :-)
 
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