1/12 Uncle AMPS 163, +2 95, +3 101, +4.5 46, PMPS 139, +2 89, +3 103, +4 81, +5 105, +6.5 107

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

http://www.felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/1-11-uncle-262-2-259-pmps-255-2-252.171187/
Uh oh, looks like Uncle is intent on working his 3 drops of insulin today.
Just gave a tablespoon of 9%.
Should I carb him up more?
Should I check him in a half an hour instead of an hour?

 

[Doodles & Karen]

If it were me I'd wait an hour. He's looking great!

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Okay, whew. I was just stressing because I know we want him to hang on to this dose a bit longer if possible before taking another reduction
AND it is very early into the cycle, I didn't want a 911..
Thanks Karen, glad you and Doodles are here!

 

[Red & Rover (GA)]

Yesterday was an incredibly flat yellow day. Hope you see nice, not scary, numbers today.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Yesterday was an incredibly flat yellow day. Hope you see nice, not scary, numbers today.

Yes indeed, THANKS!

 

[Carol & Murphy (GA)]

I'm singing those lines from the Beatles "It won't be long"

 

[Doodles & Karen]

Okay, whew. I was just stressing because I know we want him to hang on to this dose a bit longer if possible before taking another reduction

I'm not a fan of over testing and 95 is a very safe number. You fed him some 9% so an hour should be fine. Surf it now Uncle.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

I'm not a fan of over testing

Neither is Uncle

 

[carfurby (GA)]

Nice numbers for Uncle. I hope he keeps surfing.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

A flat, yellow surf like Uncle had yesterday (actually two of them) often portends an active cycle. However, so far it looks like you've got him surfing nicely.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Nope, just went down to 46!!!!!!

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Well, at least he's doing it in the daytime!

Up you go, Uncle. No need to tease the sharks.

What do you say to two drops of insulin tonight, Barb?

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Well, at least he's doing it in the daytime!

Yes, for REAL..Not so good for my work schedule. Good thing I'm the boss
Just gave him a heaping teaspoon of 20% gravy, will check again in 20

two drops of insulin tonight,

Seems like a good idea. I would like to try to taper down as much as possible before stopping the insulin altogether +ANTI-JINX-

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Seems like a good idea. I would like to try to taper down as much as possible before stopping the insulin altogether +ANTI-JINX-

Uncle is making it clear he doesn't play by the rules.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

I could kick myself for not checking him at +4. I might have kept him above 50 and got him surfing

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

I could kick myself for not checking him at +4. I might have kept him above 50 and got him surfing

Don't feel bad. We've all done that.

 

[Wendy&Neko]

I could kick myself for not checking him at +4. I might have kept him above 50 and got him surfing

We all have perfect hindsight here. As Tricia said, been there, done that.

Good luck on the slightly tinier dose.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Hmm, just checked and he's at 131. I don't ever remember him being so responsive to the HC gravy.
If that's not likely then maybe the 46 or this last one was a bad test strip.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Did you retest this one?

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Just ruled out the last test strip as being bad. Got 125 just now.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Assuming the 49 was real and this is a bump from the HC gravy, what is the best testing interval now?
Don't want to have him fall too much when it wears off...
Obviously haven't given him any food now

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Well, heck! Maybe that 46 was a bad test. You might want to hold the dose and try doing three under 50 for reductions.

what is the best testing interval now?

Two hours after you gave him the gravy - that's about when it wears off. Obviously, no more food till then.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Well, heck! Maybe that 46 was a bad test. You might want to hold the dose and try doing three under 50 for reductions.


Two hours after you gave him the gravy - that's about when it wears off. Obviously, no more food till then.

Okay, sounds good. I agree about holding the dose since the 46 seems possible but also a little dubious.

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Okay, unless you need anything, I'm off to take a shower and run some errands. I'll check back with you this evening, just in case Uncle takes this as a dare...

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Four nights ago he did drop from 92 to 48 in 2and half hours, so that 46 could have been real

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Okay, unless you need anything, I'm off to take a shower and run some errands. I'll check back with you this evening, just in case Uncle takes this as a dare...

Thanks for walking me through this. Enjoy the rest of your day

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Four nights ago he did drop from 92 to 48 in 2and half hours, so that 46 could have been real

Yes, it could have been. I've had a cat go down like that and back up again quickly, too. Just another way they try to drive us crazy!

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Just a thought: I always retested immediately any time I got a number that surprised me. I know you weren't really surprised by the 46, but maybe you should consider a second test any time you get a number that earns a reduction?

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

I always retested immediately any time I got a number that surprised me.

I've definitely done the same and found bad test strips, more than I would have liked!

maybe you should consider a second test any time you get a number that earns a reduction?

REALLY good idea, because now if I don't take the reduction, I might be playing with fire. I suppose if Uncle goes straight into a bounce, that could be a tell that the 46 was real. If it's a high bounce I will shoot through it. I will ask for feedback later tonight either way!

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

You might want to hold the dose and try doing three under 50 for reductions

I think I would maybe want reduce to 2 drops if he legit drops below 5o on this dose.
He's only been on it for 7 cycles and half the time he was bouncing!

 

[Doodles & Karen]

He's only been on it for 7 cycles and half the time he was bouncing!

Only Uncle knows about that test but good catch. Some kitties will bounce alllll the way OTJ Nothing crazy now Uncle

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Not sure what to make of today's cycle, so unsure about holding the dose at 3 drops
Any opinions greatly appreciated, THANKS

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

If your gut tells you to reduce, there's no reason you can't

If he starts to trend higher, we just call it a failed reduction and go back up to the last "good" dose

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

Hey, Barb.

Can you please update your SS as soon as you have a chance? It's much easier to give input when you can see the picture the SS provides. Thanks.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Sorry should be updated now

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Hey, Barb.

Can you please update your SS as soon as you have a chance? It's much easier to give input when you can see the picture the SS provides. Thanks.

Got distracted getting stuff together for Uncle's visit to the holistic vet tomorrow morning. She hasn't seen him since he was first diagnosed.
I ended up giving Uncle a reduced dose tonight. My uncertainty about today's cycle played a part in it for sure, but I think mostly fatigue. I think I'm trying to reduce the chance that I'll have to stay up with him all night again tonight or miss more work tomorrow. I guess we'll see what happens...

 

[Gussie's mom (GA)]

Sending surf safe vines your way and good very visit vines!

 

[Gill & George]

Hope he gives you a good cycle tonight.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Uh OH +2 is 89!

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Hope he gives you a good cycle tonight.

Well, I thought I was being conservative reducing his dose tonight, but by the looks of it, it might be another night up with him.

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

The plunger was on the zero line!

 

[Tricia Cinco(GA) & Harvey]

So give him a little higher carb snack and see if you can get him to surf there. That's actually a really good number.

 

[Chris & China (GA)]

Well, I thought I was being conservative reducing his dose tonight, but by the looks of it, it might be another night up with him.

With depot insulins, they have to "drain" a little (usually) before you'll see the effect of a reduction.....just like it has to "fill" when you increase

He's already earned the reduction today....he has nothing left to prove tonight....there's really no reason you couldn't carb him up so you can (hopefully) get to bed at a reasonable time

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

With depot insulins, they have to "drain" a little (usually) before you'll see the effect of a reduction.....just like it has to "fill" when you increase

He's already earned the reduction today....he has nothing left to prove tonight....there's really no reason you couldn't carb him up so you can (hopefully) get to bed at a reasonable time

Yes, I realized that after I wrote that about the plunger line. I remember that now, I am not seeing the new dose at play yet. Thanks for the reminder!

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

So give him a little higher carb snack and see if you can get him to surf there. That's actually a really good number.

I just gave him some 20% mixed in with his raw. I will stay up and try to get him to surf for a while. I guess that 46 earlier today was a real number...

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

Sending surf safe vines your way and good very visit vines!
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Looks like that could be Uncle and Gussie

 

[Gussie's mom (GA)]

Looks like that could be Uncle and Gussie

 

[Gussie's mom (GA)]

Cmon up Uncle, points been made and snacks eaten...time to hop up on that board and surf!

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

I'm trying to reduce the chance that I'll have to stay up with him all night again

Best laid plans...forgot about the depot

 

[Barbara & Uncle (GA)]

He's already earned the reduction today....he has nothing left to prove tonight....there's really no reason you couldn't carb him up so you can (hopefully) get to bed at a reasonable time

So watch him now (test, feed etc) to keep him above 50 and then carb him up with HC of MC for one last time tonight at around +4 or so?