Fistuk & Shelly
Member Since 2023
https://felinediabetes.com/FDMB/threads/09-29-fistuk-amps-128-3-148-4-5-121-11-139-pmps-135.282059/
Good morning
We're in the new place. Just bits and pieces and cleaning to finish completely with the old place.
Fistuk was curious and since I brought him back from the hospital he's somehow more mobile. I don't know what accounts for change, he didn't receive anything special in the hospital. Not even IV.
He hasn't had poo since we've come back and perhaps not even the day he was at the hospital so that's the third day. He looks like he's holding something and he sits by the toilet many times but doesn't go in. I called the vet and I'll be going soon to pick up something to help him move the bowls.
I have a long and hopefully thorough update from my call with the vet yesterday. I just sat with all your comments and questions and made a list. I hope I can make sense of it for you :
1. Kidneys - the vet is quite certain that it's stage 1 CKD. She said they're following the guidelines of IRIS (?) and comparing their US to the previous one done a month ago they have the radiograph signs of a CKD.
She said that even though he gets fluids and his pee id diluted the concentration in the USG is not what she'd expect and it tells her that the dehydration is bc he's not able to hold on to the fluids.
I've been processing that emotionally and am in a different place (@Bandit's Mom). I feel grateful that we have managed to catch it early and will start learning whatI need to do to help him in the best way.
The vet said there nothing to recommend with specific diet or medications but when I came back to it a few time towards the end of the call she said "if it was my cat I would avoid drugs as mush as possible bc of the kidney". That's what she's concerned most about at the moment.
She wants him back for regular checks every 3-6 months.
2. Bowls - (@tiffmaxee ) (@Suzanne & Darcy ) there's an acute (not chronic) inflammation in the bowls. She said that with probiotics and the anti nausea meds he should be fine after the weekend.
When asked about the sugar content in Proentric she said they've never had problems with that before but nevertheless she recommended another PB that I'll have to hunt for today.
She said the feces analysis for bacteria is not going to be helpful bc she won't be able to tell if there's something pathological. She said that if after PB he still has diarrhoea she will conduct a bacteria shift test.
3. Pancreatitis - (@Bron and Sheba (GA) ) (@Wendy&Neko ) apparently they saw a chronic pancreatitis in the former US but was told that everything is find. Even after your questions, Bron, about the pancreas when I called again to reconfirm I was told that his pancreas is ok. When shared that with the vet yesterday she said she can't sa anything about it bc she wasn't the one to speak to me but she does indeed see it in the previous US. Go figure...
She didn't see a reason to prescribe pain killers bc he wasn't in pain in her care, and he was there the whole day. And she's concerned about the kidney so she wants to avoid any medications and AB as much as possible.
4. HTC - we're due for another blood test in a week to test that. She's expecting it to come to normal range once the inflammation in the bowls relaxed.
will add B complex as @Marje and Gracie suggested.
I'm also still waiting for the magnesium lab results from the vet in the village.
5. Neutrophiles - she conducted a count under the microscope and concluded it's not relevant inflammation that needs AB. I wish I had a vet like that nine years ago that would avoid AB as much as possible rather than prescribe it like candy.
Phew... I think that's it.
I order the AnimalBiom gut restoration following @Gill & George's links about PB and will start immediately with what I have gotten from here and given in the past so he has something sugar free in the meantime.
It's a shame that this whole ordeal with the hospital and inflammation has gotten his BG numbers higher. I'm looking forward to see what it's going to like in a day or two. Moving house for sure doesn't help.
Thank you all for being mine and Fistuk's angles
. You're all making a huge difference to our lives
Good morning
We're in the new place. Just bits and pieces and cleaning to finish completely with the old place.
Fistuk was curious and since I brought him back from the hospital he's somehow more mobile. I don't know what accounts for change, he didn't receive anything special in the hospital. Not even IV.
He hasn't had poo since we've come back and perhaps not even the day he was at the hospital so that's the third day. He looks like he's holding something and he sits by the toilet many times but doesn't go in. I called the vet and I'll be going soon to pick up something to help him move the bowls.
I have a long and hopefully thorough update from my call with the vet yesterday. I just sat with all your comments and questions and made a list. I hope I can make sense of it for you
:1. Kidneys - the vet is quite certain that it's stage 1 CKD. She said they're following the guidelines of IRIS (?) and comparing their US to the previous one done a month ago they have the radiograph signs of a CKD.
She said that even though he gets fluids and his pee id diluted the concentration in the USG is not what she'd expect and it tells her that the dehydration is bc he's not able to hold on to the fluids.
I've been processing that emotionally and am in a different place (@Bandit's Mom). I feel grateful that we have managed to catch it early and will start learning whatI need to do to help him in the best way.
The vet said there nothing to recommend with specific diet or medications but when I came back to it a few time towards the end of the call she said "if it was my cat I would avoid drugs as mush as possible bc of the kidney". That's what she's concerned most about at the moment.
She wants him back for regular checks every 3-6 months.
2. Bowls - (@tiffmaxee ) (@Suzanne & Darcy ) there's an acute (not chronic) inflammation in the bowls. She said that with probiotics and the anti nausea meds he should be fine after the weekend.
When asked about the sugar content in Proentric she said they've never had problems with that before but nevertheless she recommended another PB that I'll have to hunt for today.
She said the feces analysis for bacteria is not going to be helpful bc she won't be able to tell if there's something pathological. She said that if after PB he still has diarrhoea she will conduct a bacteria shift test.
3. Pancreatitis - (@Bron and Sheba (GA) ) (@Wendy&Neko ) apparently they saw a chronic pancreatitis in the former US but was told that everything is find. Even after your questions, Bron, about the pancreas when I called again to reconfirm I was told that his pancreas is ok. When shared that with the vet yesterday she said she can't sa anything about it bc she wasn't the one to speak to me but she does indeed see it in the previous US. Go figure...
She didn't see a reason to prescribe pain killers bc he wasn't in pain in her care, and he was there the whole day. And she's concerned about the kidney so she wants to avoid any medications and AB as much as possible.
4. HTC - we're due for another blood test in a week to test that. She's expecting it to come to normal range once the inflammation in the bowls relaxed.
will add B complex as @Marje and Gracie suggested.
I'm also still waiting for the magnesium lab results from the vet in the village.
5. Neutrophiles - she conducted a count under the microscope and concluded it's not relevant inflammation that needs AB. I wish I had a vet like that nine years ago that would avoid AB as much as possible rather than prescribe it like candy.
Phew... I think that's it.
I order the AnimalBiom gut restoration following @Gill & George's links about PB and will start immediately with what I have gotten from here and given in the past so he has something sugar free in the meantime.
It's a shame that this whole ordeal with the hospital and inflammation has gotten his BG numbers higher. I'm looking forward to see what it's going to like in a day or two. Moving house for sure doesn't help.
Thank you all for being mine and Fistuk's angles
. You're all making a huge difference to our lives
I can assure you that the vets in the hospital think I’m a pain in the butt 
but yes I like to be on top of things and autonomous in my decisions so it takes a lot of learning and asking and making self available for guidance. 
Ut's been a busy day but I'm happy to say I'm home and looking forward to a restful Sunday 
