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..i needed to increase last night; lost track of cycles.. whoopsie. understandable i guess..

nuggets numbers bit high for us still so he dont feel as good, but doing ok id say rn, atm.. got his binder, his meds, his fluids (i hung em over the tv today.. (like 150 mL left in the bag..) .. u just start seeing places u can hang them.. cuz i just like to do it where he happens to be now that im more practiced.. terumo hurt em tho today.. i do wrong or hit something? idk )

his legs still a bit weak.. trying to add the binder tho properly see if helps..

im trying to figure the best time for Mirtaz.. (like around the cycle.. when rising is best probably so can be hungry when really needed..) also made an appt for an echo next week. Primary calls it out and someone comes to do them; he trusts her he says.. so not w cardiologist but might be best option; going to call around see if a cardiologist would also be willing to read the report.. see if they confirm it. because we just cant wait months. its also like hundreds more otherwise.. sigh.

oh dear me…. I was looking to see how to administer.. Website Says to keep the thriving pets aluminum hydroxide frm Zeniquin….. oh boy.. what do we do?…. we got 4-5 days left… then maybe mire…. @Suzanne & Darcy @Wendy&Neko @tiffmaxee

• According to Plumb's Veterinary Drug Handbook, aluminium hydroxide should be given two hours apart from enrofloxacin ( Baytril), an antibiotic. It is probably wise to keep aluminium hydroxide away from antibiotics generally, particularly those in the same family as Baytril (this includes marbofloxacin (Zeniquin).​

i am spacing things tho.. but like idk :/ for ex first binder dose will be 6 hrs before.. next like 3-4 hrs.. tho i understand some needs to be in every meal/snack…. Idk

I think you need to give binder an hour before medication or 3 hours after but not 100% sure. It’s good just three or four days left of zenequin.

Pet meds says at least 2 hours separation.

tiffmaxee said:

I think you need to give binder an hour before medication or 3 hours after but not 100% sure. It’s good just three or four days left of zenequin.

Pet meds says at least 2 hours separation.

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.. ughhh...... so..... I guess the period of the day where he's not taking his med/supplements... or I need to move things around. is it ok to give it all at once?.. or has to be in most snacks/meals?

Unfortunately it needs to be given with food or it does not work. It binds with the phosphorus in the food. Just add it when it works out until the antibiotic is finished.

tiffmaxee said:

Unfortunately it needs to be given with food or it does not work. It binds with the phosphorus in the food. Just add it when it works out until the antibiotic is finished.

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ok.... im going to try. ... so, take amount for day, sprinkle it where I can?.. for ex. here's how things going rn.. last AM snack, he gets his Cerenia a bit after.. heard it helps keep it down, etc. then he gets his Lantus, breakfast, which I guess need to add to that, ok.. then +1 snack, then +2 snack, then the other meds/supplements start.. from like +3-5.. gets his Miralax one, his probiotic another.. then form there a break more or less.. until the Zenequin at 2 hr snack from dinner.. how do I do this? I guess just try to fit in where can.. but my brain is overwhelmed... spacing it properly.. maybe overnight?....... that's like the only times he not getting anything, aside from Miralax.. which by chance do u know if it has to be spaced perfectly evenly like every 12 hrs?..he got some around 12-1 pm today.. wanted to give him more now.

honestly.. how are other CKD kitties doing binders when im sure they're on multiple medicines and supplements too?..

Drugs.com has a medicine interaction checker where you can plug in all that you give and find out what to do. I have not checked in a long time. MiraLAX does not need to be given on a specific schedule. I was not giving probiotics when juggling meds with Max and Tiffany. Not sure it needs to be separated from zeniquin but probably from tge binder. Don’t you just have a couple more days of zeniquin? If so don’t stress about the binder. Any times you can get it to bind with the phosphorus in the food is a benefit.

tiffmaxee said:

Drugs.com has a medicine interaction checker where you can plug in all that you give and find out what to do. I have not checked in a long time. MiraLAX does not need to be given on a specific schedule. I was not giving probiotics when juggling meds with Max and Tiffany. Not sure it needs to be separated from zeniquin but probably from tge binder. Don’t you just have a couple more days of zeniquin? If so don’t stress about the binder. Any times you can get it to bind with the phosphorus in the food is a benefit.

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thanks for that.. i mean.. its just w all the things to help him rn, not sure how’d they interatc w the binder included.. cuz hes sorta getting things round the clock now.. AND i still got 3 other things to add in……. fish oil… his Thistle.. the Kidney Support.. woof. im going to call the company and make them work it out for me if possible. find out everything too.. appreciate that. gonna try to get it in rn.. whenever i can..

You’re doing such a great job, I know how much all of this is to try to figure out

Staci & Ivy said:

You’re doing such a great job, I know how much all of this is to try to figure out

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Its horrible.. idk what to do. whats the right things to do. its like he seems to feel ok, then feels bad, and back and forth.. i hate it.

kitten68 said:

Its horrible.. idk what to do. whats the right things to do. its like he seems to feel ok, then feels bad, and back and forth.. i hate it.

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I know. I understand how you feel.
It seems we are always guessing in the right thing to do to help them.
Sweet Pudge