Elmo 12/16 PMPS......164

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Good morning Beth. Another one of those "right on the edge" decisions. I think you could do the 0.25 minus small drop as long as you are available to monitor and steer if needed. Having skipped the shot yesterday, he is really holding his numbers well. I'd expect his nadir to be a little lower today than it was last night but only time will tell.
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Good morning Beth. Another one of those "right on the edge" decisions. I think you could do the 0.25 minus small drop as long as you are available to monitor and steer if needed. Having skipped the shot yesterday, he is really holding his numbers well. I'd expect his nadir to be a little lower today than it was last night but only time will tell.
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Thank u, Linda...being available to monitor is my life :confused:......
 
We did .25 minus small drop last night and he did well, even with it being the pm cycle...
 
Morning, Beth. :bighug:

Just checking in now. Are you still waiting to give the dose or have you gone ahead and given it?


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Just getting here. I'm confused: did you give 0.25 u minus small or full drop? Will you be updating your SS, Beth? The last entries are for 12/14. BTW - SS says PM dose on 12/14 was 0.25 u minus small drop.
 
Yes Menace is behaving (thank you for asking Beth) but I did have to resort to a BCS (Big Chicken Shot) the other night when she honoured me with a PMPS of about 80. Now she is running a tad higher again which was expected and not all bad given my schedule this weekend. I'm going to be somewhat scarce today and tomorrow and Sunday. I have more snow to clean up today (another inch or 2 last night), an appt. this afternoon and have to turn in very early tonight because my Special Olympic curling teams have a day long competition tomorrow. We are expecting yet another major snow blow overnight of about 8 more inches so I'm going to have to be up with the birds Saturday to shovel out my car and get on the road early to pick up a couple of my curlers. While I always enjoy the first pristine snowfall, this daily barrage is getting old really fast. If I didn't have Menace to worry about, I'd be booking a trip to a sunny climate for early in the New Year but I wouldn't trade her for the world so all's well! I'll just have to deal with it. :)
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Just getting here. I'm confused: did you give 0.25 u minus small or full drop? Will you be updating your SS, Beth? The last entries are for 12/14.
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Hi Kris,

The last line of data on the SS is from yesterday (there's an error in the date column - 13th December on two rows).

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MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Yes Menace is behaving (thank you for asking Beth) but I did have to resort to a BCS (Big Chicken Shot) the other night when she honoured me with a PMPS of about 80. Now she is running a tad higher again which was expected and not all bad given my schedule this weekend. I'm going to be somewhat scarce today and tomorrow and Sunday. I have more snow to clean up today (another inch or 2 last night), an appt. this afternoon and have to turn in very early tonight because my Special Olympic curling teams have a day long competition tomorrow. We are expecting yet another major snow blow overnight of about 8 more inches so I'm going to have to be up with the birds Saturday to shovel out my car and get on the road early to pick up a couple of my curlers. While I always enjoy the first pristine snowfall, this daily barrage is getting old really fast. If I didn't have Menace to worry about, I'd be booking a trip to a sunny climate for early in the New Year but I wouldn't trade her for the world so all's well! I'll just have to deal with it. :)
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Special Olympics! How wonderful!! My year old great niece was born with Down Syndrome and I cannot wait to participate in helping Special Olympics with her:bighug:
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Yes Menace is behaving (thank you for asking Beth) but I did have to resort to a BCS (Big Chicken Shot) the other night when she honoured me with a PMPS of about 80. Now she is running a tad higher again which was expected and not all bad given my schedule this weekend. I'm going to be somewhat scarce today and tomorrow and Sunday. I have more snow to clean up today (another inch or 2 last night), an appt. this afternoon and have to turn in very early tonight because my Special Olympic curling teams have a day long competition tomorrow. We are expecting yet another major snow blow overnight of about 8 more inches so I'm going to have to be up with the birds Saturday to shovel out my car and get on the road early to pick up a couple of my curlers. While I always enjoy the first pristine snowfall, this daily barrage is getting old really fast. If I didn't have Menace to worry about, I'd be booking a trip to a sunny climate for early in the New Year but I wouldn't trade her for the world so all's well! I'll just have to deal with it. :)
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Hurray for you for working with the Special Olympics folks!
 
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Kris & Teasel said:
It's -24C (-11F) out there right now and I don't feel inclined to venture out.
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Good plan Kris. I haven't looked at the temperature outside here because they issued a cold weather warning and that's all I want to know! BRRRRR! Wish I didn't have to venture out but alas, no choice today!:blackeye:
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Just getting here. I'm confused: did you give 0.25 u minus small or full drop? Will you be updating your SS, Beth? The last entries are for 12/14. BTW - SS says PM dose on 12/14 was 0.25 u minus small drop.
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And yes, Kris, we settled on .25 minus small drop...he did well
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Yes Menace is behaving (thank you for asking Beth) but I did have to resort to a BCS (Big Chicken Shot) the other night when she honoured me with a PMPS of about 80. Now she is running a tad higher again which was expected and not all bad given my schedule this weekend. I'm going to be somewhat scarce today and tomorrow and Sunday. I have more snow to clean up today (another inch or 2 last night), an appt. this afternoon and have to turn in very early tonight because my Special Olympic curling teams have a day long competition tomorrow. We are expecting yet another major snow blow overnight of about 8 more inches so I'm going to have to be up with the birds Saturday to shovel out my car and get on the road early to pick up a couple of my curlers. While I always enjoy the first pristine snowfall, this daily barrage is getting old really fast. If I didn't have Menace to worry about, I'd be booking a trip to a sunny climate for early in the New Year but I wouldn't trade her for the world so all's well! I'll just have to deal with it. :)
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Love ur attitude, Linda. Heard a saying that I recite out loud to myself often:" It's not the load U carry but how u carry the load"....I work at keeping it positive .
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Yes, I'll be here. It's -24C (-11F) out there right now and I don't feel inclined to venture out. :coffee:
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I'm glad to hear you're around, Kris. My friend is taking me to the bank (rent's due next week!) so I'll be AWOL. Nippy here, but dry and sunny for which I'm grateful (dread having to leave the house - even for a short time).

@Beth 73 - Fingers and paws crossed for a good cycle!


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Just double checked and SS agrees with daily journal:).....gotta be more mindful on these bleary brain days ;)Going to monitor as usual and post here first then desk top as it can be dodgey:eek:
 
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I'm glad to hear you're around, Kris. My friend is taking me to the bank (rent's due next week!) so I'll be AWOL. Nippy here, but dry and sunny for which I'm grateful (dread having to leave the house - even for a short time).

@Beth 73 - Fingers and paws crossed for a good cycle!


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Good luck venturing out, Mogs. I'll keep tabs here.
P.S. What about online banking and eTransfer? Could be helpful.
 
Normally it would but the particular account I need to transfer money from only allows me to do it by cheque. :rolleyes: :banghead:

Thank you for the good wishes; much needed.

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Checking in....AMPS was 154....25 minus small drop given....at +1.5 116..........I am trying to not knee jerk react and steer when not needed....from 154 what would be a steep drop, Kris...sometimes most drops look steep to my overcautious eye
 
Beth 73 said:
Checking in....AMPS was 154....25 minus small drop given....at +1.5 116..........I am trying to not knee jerk react and steer when not needed....from 154 what would be a steep drop, Kris...sometimes most drops look steep to my overcautious eye
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That's a little steep going to +1.5 so I'd try a small snack of regular food first. See where he's at when you get to +2.
 
+2...124.....he ate a little at 8:30.... vet had told me to initially to let him graze til +1.5. So I have continued that, fyi
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
Yes Menace is behaving (thank you for asking Beth) but I did have to resort to a BCS (Big Chicken Shot) the other night when she honoured me with a PMPS of about 80. Now she is running a tad higher again which was expected and not all bad given my schedule this weekend. I'm going to be somewhat scarce today and tomorrow and Sunday. I have more snow to clean up today (another inch or 2 last night), an appt. this afternoon and have to turn in very early tonight because my Special Olympic curling teams have a day long competition tomorrow. We are expecting yet another major snow blow overnight of about 8 more inches so I'm going to have to be up with the birds Saturday to shovel out my car and get on the road early to pick up a couple of my curlers. While I always enjoy the first pristine snowfall, this daily barrage is getting old really fast. If I didn't have Menace to worry about, I'd be booking a trip to a sunny climate for early in the New Year but I wouldn't trade her for the world so all's well! I'll just have to deal with it. :)
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Will be praying for you to enjoy your trip without concern for Menace, Linda. Outings like this are so good for wonderful caregivers like you:bighug:
 
+3 ...123.... Elmo being kind to his momma AND godmothers far and wide :):cat::rolleyes:;)......stay warm ,Kris....we have sub zero wind chills headed here tomorrow with prospect of only one inch of snow:(....
 
Kris & Teasel said:
I love being a Hobbit and I'd really like a little house like Bilbo's! :)
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Kris, can u tell me the difference between vetsulin and pro zinc? Reason is when talked to vet for Elmo Monda appointment she mentioned that they had used Prozinc as an alternative to vetsulin. Just want to go in educated from your point of view as a user . Read some of the pro zinc stickies but want ur trusted expertise.
 
Beth 73 said:
Kris, can u tell me the difference between vetsulin and pro zinc? Reason is when talked to vet for Elmo Monda appointment she mentioned that they had used Prozinc as an alternative to vetsulin. Just want to go in educated from your point of view as a user . Read some of the pro zinc stickies but want ur trusted expertise.
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  • ProZinc is an in and out insulin like Vetsulin - ie., the insulin is injected, it does its thing and it's gone. There's no residual depot ("tank" of insulin) that remains to keep a little insulin actively working between injections.
  • Like Vetsulin, it (ideally) produces a smile-shaped BG curve - AMPS high slopes gently down to nadir then rises gently to PMPS.
  • It's slower in onset and longer in duration than Vetsulin for many kitties.
  • The U100 syringes allow tiny dose fractions because it's a U40 insulin like Vetsulin - this where you'll do well if you try ProZinc! (nudge, nudge ... )
So - they're essentially similar in the way they act but ProZinc tends to be a bit more "leisurely" about it. :) Of note, though - ProZinc is $100 -$120 a vial.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
  • ProZinc is an in and out insulin like Vetsulin - ie., the insulin is injected, it does its thing and it's gone. There's no residual depot ("tank" of insulin) that remains to keep a little insulin actively working between injections.
  • Like Vetsulin, it (ideally) produces a smile-shaped BG curve - AMPS high slopes gently down to nadir then rises gently to PMPS.
  • It's slower in onset and longer in duration than Vetsulin for many kitties.
  • The U100 syringes allow tiny dose fractions because it's a U40 insulin like Vetsulin - this where you'll do well if you try ProZinc! (nudge, nudge ... )
So - they're essentially similar in the way they act but ProZinc tends to be a bit more "leisurely" about it. :) Of note, though - ProZinc is $100 -$120 a vial.
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Thank you, mam:)..... just got the feeling when talked to them that this is their next step if vetsulin doesn't work. I've read it's gentler than vetsulin, not the harsh crash at first....but that may just be how dear Elmo metabolizes it. Just want to be forearmed and informed for Monday .
 
Beth 73 said:
Thank you, mam:)..... just got the feeling when talked to them that this is their next step if vetsulin doesn't work. I've read it's gentler than vetsulin, not the harsh crash at first....but that may just be how dear Elmo metabolizes it. Just want to be forearmed and informed for Monday .
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Info is your weapon, Beth. I know that Mogs has lobbied in favour of an L insulin. Your decision based on our info, what the vet says and, ultimately your gut feeling.
 
Kris & Teasel said:
Info is your weapon, Beth. I know that Mogs has lobbied in favour of an L insulin. Your decision based on our info, what the vet says and, ultimately your gut feeling.
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Yep , I really don't want to be looking for a new vet right now . Living in a small town with towns around us just a bit larger makes choices limited. Right now it's a one hour round trip which they don't like.Have switched my tabby brothers to another vet in town because this longtime vet where Elmo is currently being seen is nearing retirement and has replacement assistant vets that change every few months. I do not like that when dealing with an issue like Elmo's. Will keep reading up, taking notes for Monday . :bookworm:
 
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