1st insulin shot this morn, BG is 40 right now?!

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@Sashi's Mama -

Great update on food log for the day - especially that Sashi is hungry right now.

Feed a small meal of HIGH CARB food with gravy. ETA - WET HIGH CARB FOOD!

Add a little karo to the food if he'll eat it.

Give a few high carb kibble treats, too.

Test again in 10 minutes. (Sorry, Sashi!)

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Thanks for the information. Not sure what time zone you are in. This is what I came up with:

1 unit Novolin AMPS (340)
Since +2.25, BG has stayed in the 40s (despite the help of gravy and karo)
It is now 4 hours since you gave insulin?

The testing will have to continue until Sashi is above 50 and obviously rising without having to feed gravy and karo. (Sorry, ears.)
 
Yes, he's eating a little more Abound with gravy right now. I can get some more with gravy very easily. I generally let them free feed, so there's food available. If I just put him in front of it, he pretty much wolfs some down every time, though since he's a grazer he'll leave, then come back for another wolfing session a little later.

What do you mean by a teaspoon of actual high-carb food--you mean human food, or...? Suggestion?

Going to test again right now, back in a min.
 
I am Mountain Time, so it's 1pm here right now. He got the insulin at 8:55am my time this morn. So yes, 4 hours ago. Hang on, right back with latest test #s. He just had another few teaspoons of gravy, ate a little of the food too (prefers the gravy!) This is Abound brand, I have chicken and salmon. Happy to see if I can get some diff brands right now, open to suggestions.
 
Sashi's Mama said:
Yes, he's eating a little more Abound with gravy right now. I can get some more with gravy very easily. I generally let them free feed, so there's food available. If I just put him in front of it, he pretty much wolfs some down every time, though since he's a grazer he'll leave, then come back for another wolfing session a little later.

What do you mean by a teaspoon of actual high-carb food--you mean human food, or...? Suggestion?

Going to test again right now, back in a min.
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No, high carb wet cat food - eg. Friskies or Fancy Feast with gravy/sauce. I'm not familiar with Abound. If it's wet food with sauce or gravy it should be OK.
 
Don't worry about the teaspoon stuff now, Sashi's Mama - he needs a small meal of wet high carb KITTY(!) food with gravy now - and a few high carb kibble treats. :)

Don't give him a big meal. You may need him to eat again in a little while.


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Critter Mom said:
Don't worry about the teaspoon stuff now, Sashi's Mama - he needs a small meal of wet high carb KITTY(!) food with gravy now - and a few high carb kibble treats. :)

Don't give him a big meal. You may need him to eat again in a little while.


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Ok, fixing some up for him right now. High carb wet kitty food.
 
I'm following along too. You are doing great and are in great hands. If the antibiotics are now tackling the tooth infection, that could be causing Sashi's BG levels to drop. Me thinks the vet should know this and not be quite so puzzled! :rolleyes:Thank goodness you didn't do the 2u!

Sashi's Mama said:
42 now. Whyyyyyy?
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That reading is essentially the same as 44 so no worries. He's not dropping...he's holding.
 
Neither. Just put it out there as a bit of information. Some cat foods are wheat or rice based.

If someone could do a quick carb analysis on the food to find the actual carb count, that would be great. I've never done one.
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
http://www.aboundpet.com/cats/salmon-sweet-potato-stew-in-gravy/ (the gravy is potato starch based)
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12.8% calories from carbs in the salmon variety - that could be why the gravy isn't doing much to help the numbers.

Is there any way you could get someone to pop out and get some Fancy Feast gravy lovers food. It's important not to leave Sashi unattended at the moment.

(Can anyone else make suggestions about widely available high carb, gravied food?)

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Sashi's Mama said:
Augh, 36 now! That's dropping too much, right? What more can I do???
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You can give a little more high carb wet cat food and maybe add a small amount of karo to it if he'll eat that. Test every 10-15 minutes and post here.

It's about +4.5 since his dose so you might be busy the next 1.5 to 2 hours to get him past this. Can someone go buy you some higher carb wet food while you keep an eye on your kitty?
 
Red & Rover (GA) said:
+4.5 36
How much karo are you putting on your finger each time? If a very small amount, increase.

Test in 10 minutes.
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Ack!!!

After you've rubbed more karo into the gums give some more high carb kibble treats - see if Sashi will eat the kibble if dipped in karo. If not just give the high carb treats.

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MrWorfMen's Mom said:
I'd give him a 1/2 to 1 teaspoon of karo and let him lap it up.
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Glad you suggested this, Linda. I have never had to give a kitty that much honey so I was worrying about Sashi becoming queasy. I thought that the gravy would have kicked in but it appears the food Sashi's mom has is only moderately carby (c. 13%) - goes a way toward why the numbers aren't budging much.


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Do you have a neighbour or a relative close by who has a cat? I'm wondering if you could ask them for Fancy Feast (with gravy) or Friskies (with gravy). Or if they might have kibble or dry treats for honey dipping.
 
I tend to be a bit shy using the karo myself but with him looking like he may be falling a bit now, I think it's better to give a bigger dose and keep the food/gravy for holding rather than raising numbers till he gets to a safe level.
 
Just tested again at 36. My neighbor is over now for moral support. She brought over some of her kibble and I soaked it in some gravy He's enjoying it quite a bit. He also went outside to pee, then walked off to his favorite spot under the bushes to lie down for a nap in his fave spot. I was just watching him to see what he was doing. brought him back in. he's not staggering or acting confused at all.

My neighbor (former human nurse) also suggested I check the glucometer to be sure it's not reading wrong, so I'm taking out the batteries and putting them back in.
 
I wonder if you have any human food on hand that would be carby and attractive to a kitty? If he's a good eater, it shouldn't be too hard to find something: canned gravy, mac and cheese, breaded meat/fish, etc. It might cause a bit of tummy upset but it's risk/benefit.
 
It does seem like the Abound doesn't pack quite as much of a punch as Sashi needs today. What other cat foods do you have in the house, and/or is it possible for someone to run out and get some other options?

Some readily available high-carb options (should be found at a supermarket or even a convenience store if you can find someone to go for you):

Fancy Feast "gravy lovers" varieties
Friskies: anything with "gravy" or (especially) "greens" in the title

Ah, I see someone else has made the same suggestions...

How are you and Sashi doing?
 
Sashi's Mama said:
Just tested again at 36. My neighbor is over now for moral support. She brought over some of her kibble and I soaked it in some gravy He's enjoying it quite a bit. He also went outside to pee, then walked off to his favorite spot under the bushes to lie down for a nap in his fave spot. I was just watching him to see what he was doing. brought him back in. he's not staggering or acting confused at all.

My neighbor (former human nurse) also suggested I check the glucometer to be sure it's not reading wrong, so I'm taking out the batteries and putting them back in.
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Very glad that clinical signs are "unremarkable" as the docs would say.
 
MrWorfMen's Mom said:
I think it's better to give a bigger dose and keep the food/gravy for holding rather than raising numbers till he gets to a safe level.
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Indeed - hence the suggestion about giving some high carb kibbles dipped in karo: not too filling but might do something to get at least some longer-lasting carbs into Sashi.

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Sashi's Mama said:
51! We gave him kibble in tuna juice too, he liked that. About 25 min ago. Off to store now while neighbor sits with him.
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A very welcome 51!

VERY IMPORTANT!!!

How long will it take you to get to the store and back?

Is your neighbour able to help by taking over testing Sashi and posting updates here?

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Just curious....what kind of kibble did you give him? Hate to think it could have been Young Again?! Hopefully something packed full of carbs in which case it's probably clicking in about now and you'll soon be out of the woods. Gotta go finish snow clean up. Will check back ASAP!
 
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