Young Again Zero Carb Food

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I'm surprised that more people don't feed their cats the Young Again zero carb food. Looking at the ingredient list it seems like a good choice for sugar cats, I must be missing something.
 
Many of us believe that NO dry food is good for kitties. They must drink lots of water to get it through their digestive systems and what they drink is never enough to fully flush it. Much of it therefore remains in their tract and can cause UTIs and other problems - even gingivitis.

Read what Dr. Pierson says about dry food here

"There is no doubt that dry food is responsible for far more intestinal problems, and other diseases, than most veterinarians and cat owners realize." - Dr. Lisa Pierson DVM
 
I agree about the wet food but what about giving this as a little in-between . The reason I ask is when we do go on vacation would be ok for the cat sitter to give them a measured amount before she leaves for the night to get them through the night. My cats have gotten use to eating every 4-5 hours and and if she feeds them at 11:30 pm they won't eat again until 6:00 am. I still have months to try and get them on a longer schedule . Just thinking ahead.
 
I know its frowned upon but I give my 3 cats, 1 TBS every morning....yes only one TBS that way they get their crunchies and not too much. I also keep it n hand JUST in case we need to go out for a day or 2.

Me and my husband are not social and have no one to help with the cats if we need to go some where for a day or two so that way I can leave food out without worrying.
 
A timed feeder can be helpful for feeding when you're away a long period. Check out the Pet Safe 5 on Amazon. If you go through our SHOP button above, and purchase that way, the board will get a small amount for the referral.
 
Although Dr. Lisa is completely against feeding dry food, she does say this to anyone who is trying to transition from Dry food to Canned food:

Dry food addicts: I do not support the feeding of any dry food to any cat for many reasons (water depletion, high in carbohydrates, high in plant-based proteins, bacterial and fungal mycotoxin contamination, cooked-to-death which destroys nutrients, very calorically dense, etc.), but while you are working on the Tips for Transitioning Dry Food Addicts to Canned Food, please substitute your cat's high carb dry food with either EVO or Young Again.
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Carl
 
Mine are off it compleatly but was wondering about vacation if it would hurt them to get a little in the timed feeder in the middle of the night.
 
You can put canned in the timed feeder, also catsicles are great. You mix maybe 35-40% water into canned- food and freeze in ice cube trays or mini containers...I used the little 2 oz cups they put takeout salsa or salad dressing in. You pop a couple these catsicles out when you need to be out for awhile or perfect for overnight. They thaw in a couple jours. Some will put the frozen down first w/ a serving of fresh on top or next to it which keeps the fresh cool. This would also work well in a timed feeder. If you have managed to get yours off dry completely, I would not jinx it.. You may create a monster. It is fine to leave some fresh out overnight for snacks
 
I have the Young Again also and have mixed it into his wet food before!! I do put a measured amount out for him every day before I leave the house in case he gets hungry, but need to back that amount down to a smaller amount. I have just started feeding him wet food since October tho, so slowly trying to get him fully on Wet only.
 
I use it for my kitty when I go on vacation. I have to work around 2 pet sitters and I have no choice but to use it for the cat when I'm gone. I only go on vacation for a few days 2 times a year so its not like she is getting that much of it.
I was feeding it to my drooler everyday and BJM let me know that it was to high in protein for a dog. I just switched the dog over to Solid Gold canned dog food and I've noticed a great improvement in his bathroom habits.
 
I want to buy this Young Again zero carb also for Dweezil (and Monty) for just a bit of variety, and to replace their current vet recommended Royal Canin Diabetic formula, but every time for the past week that I go to the Young Again website, it tells me the purchasing part is "down for maintenance".

Is it?? Can you still order online? I really want to buy it! The site says to call but I'm in Australia and the time difference is very awkward. Also I prefer to pay online and not over the phone.
 
I received an email a couple weeks ago......I want to say something like their website was hacked (not certain) and they wanted the added security measure for right now. You can try emailing them, and ask if theres maybe a way to email your cc info, dont know how secure you'd feel with that though. They are great to deal with, and respond quickly to emails. Great customer service.
 
While you are waiting on Young Again because of their system issues, you might see if any stores nearby have any Wysong Epigen in stock. It's also really low carb and the pricing is very competitive to the fancy cat foods. I pay $14 for a 5lb bag.
 
What I have noticed is when I feed them more than a small handful (20 kibble) through out day their BG seems to go up into the 90's however when I've given EVO to them I don't see that spike.

It's getting now to the point that Blitzen wants more and more kibble so I think I'll go back to the EVO and only give 5 or 6 as a treat twice daily. Not sure why the Young Again effects their BG more then EVO.
 
I use Young Again as a kibble crunch for Ben. I started out giving it to all of my cats but three of them became dangerously underweight with that being their only food source. Now there are bowls of YA on the floor for Ben's snacking (which he doesn't eat much of) And regular cat food higher up for the civvies.
 
Hmm, i wish Australia had these brands. The only dry ones we have are Advance, Royal Canin, Hills, Purina, Whiskas, Iams, Eukanuba, and...i'm not quite sure what else. The junk supermarket ones.

I will definitely email YA.
 
My cats are OTJ and I don't want to go backward so I stick with just a little for the crunch. Dasher could care less but Blitzen is a monster without it. However when we go on vacation this summer their going to have to have some left out for them overnight as I can't get someone here during the night to feed them their wet food. I'm thinkng one cup should get them through the night. My cats eat every 4-5 hours so hopefully I can get this feeling thing worked out as I really don't want to start them down the wrong road.
 
monty_dweezil said:
Hmm, i wish Australia had these brands. The only dry ones we have are Advance, Royal Canin, Hills, Purina, Whiskas, Iams, Eukanuba, and...i'm not quite sure what else. The junk supermarket ones.

I will definitely email YA.
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How frustrating ! It sounds like the dry food situation in the UK :(
 
Likameow said:
I use Young Again as a kibble crunch for Ben. I started out giving it to all of my cats but three of them became dangerously underweight with that being their only food source.
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Which is why I also give my cats wet cat food as well. That and they do need some variety.
 
Wysong can be purchased directly from them on the website or Chewy.com also sells it. Dirtybirdsoaps is correct about Young Again, they did have a security issue and have shut down online ordering for now. Their customer service is awesome, very nice people to talk to and work with, I am sure if you want to purchase from them they will help you out anyway possible, as stated just email them.
 
Robin-S said:
What I have noticed is when I feed them more than a small handful (20 kibble) through out day their BG seems to go up into the 90's however when I've given EVO to them I don't see that spike.

It's getting now to the point that Blitzen wants more and more kibble so I think I'll go back to the EVO and only give 5 or 6 as a treat twice daily. Not sure why the Young Again effects their BG more then EVO.
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What is EVO?
 
EVO Turkey & Chicken kitten & cat food. It's kibble and some pet stores carry it or you can get it online.
I'm now out of it and will finish up the young again I bought but I will also monitor their BG to see if having it everyday makes their BG spike or if it was just a fluke.
 
You may want to use a larger font and bold the fact that you are in Australia; folks seem to be missing that and telling you what is available in the USA.
 
The newly reformulated Wysong Epigen 90 is a disaster. It nearly killed one of my cats with life-threatening diarrhea and emesis. I'd been using the old formulation without issues and it was wonderful for my sugar-kitty's blood sugars. The newly reformulated one has been known to kill ferrets, and I report the problems with the "new and improved" wysong here:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R36F3D6G5SJC5M/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20

Since that review there have been multiple confirming reviews and read the comments section on that link.

I have filed a complaint with both wysong (they don't care) and the FDA, which hasn't done anything I can see about the problem.

Since wysong epigen 90 became unusable, I've bounced from brand to brand and was suffering through high blood glucoses on orijen because of what looked like a superior ingredient list.

I'm now giving young again zero carb another try. My cats don't seem to like it as much as orijen, but that's just tough.
 
Robin-S said:
What I have noticed is when I feed them more than a small handful (20 kibble) through out day their BG seems to go up into the 90's however when I've given EVO to them I don't see that spike.

It's getting now to the point that Blitzen wants more and more kibble so I think I'll go back to the EVO and only give 5 or 6 as a treat twice daily. Not sure why the Young Again effects their BG more then EVO.
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I guess all cats are different. EVO spiked my cat's BG to 195 but young again zero carb didn't budge it. I guess the only way to know is to try.
 
Sandman said:
The newly reformulated Wysong Epigen 90 is a disaster. It nearly killed one of my cats with life-threatening diarrhea and emesis. I'd been using the old formulation without issues and it was wonderful for my sugar-kitty's blood sugars. The newly reformulated one has been known to kill ferrets, and I report the problems with the "new and improved" wysong here:

http://www.amazon.com/review/R36F3D6G5SJC5M/?tag=felinediabetesfdmb-20

Since that review there have been multiple confirming reviews and read the comments section on that link.

I have filed a complaint with both wysong (they don't care) and the FDA, which hasn't done anything I can see about the problem.
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I think it would be really helpful if you could create a food alert post on the Feline Health board to let other members know about this. (They might not visit this thread and might miss the warning.)

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billysmom said:
I guess all cats are different. EVO spiked my cat's BG to 195 but young again zero carb didn't budge it. I guess the only way to know is to try.
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I should of retracted my statement, after them having EVO daily for a few weeks both cats BG went up. I ordered Young Again zero carb and they both have been eating it for over a month and the BG is excellent , they get a few tablespoon a day and all is very good.
My one cat is a kibble cat and will pound on the cabinet door if he doesn't get it so we were thrilled to see YA is working for them.
 
Critter Mom said:
I think it would be really helpful if you could create a food alert post on the Feline Health board to let other members know about this. (They might not visit this thread and might miss the warning.)

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Thanks. Done. Mr. Sluggo had to go back on the juice recently because of abscessed teeth (since removed). And he's had a consistent insulin requirement. I notice his sugars were really raging out of control in the mornings and hypothesized it was the orijen I've been free-feeding all 3 cats. Sluggo will eat the canned blue wilderness chicken pate, which is supposedly very low carb, but I think he was chowing down on the orijen during the night time hours when I wasn't feeding him the canned stuff. Orijen has a super ingredient list, but it calculates out to 16% dry matter carbs on the scheyder calculator. So even though all the cats love orijen, it's gone in the garbage & I've put out YA zero carb for all 3 fur-babies. See if that helps. I applied the Scheyder calculator to the blue wilderness and despite the fact the sum of the ingredients comes out 100+% (no room for carbs), the calculator is still coming up with 7% dry matter carbs. YA zero carb calculates out to 3% dry matter carbs on the scheyder. But I suspect if the carbs are stuff like saw dust and fructo-oligosaccharides, that's FUNCTIONALLY zero carb anyway. It's just a crock that wysong epigen 90 had to sacrifice a good but pricey product that "worked" for my sugar-kitty and that I can't get "as fed" values anywhere anyhow for the particular canned food sluggo will actually eat... Oh well.....
 
Well my experience with Young Again is nothing short of a miracle, and I owe my cat's life to them and to a great degree, this forum too. Thirteen months ago my 12 year old male, Elvis, was diagnosed with diabetes. After being put on an aggressive (IMO) course of insulin shots and keeping him on Science Diet C/D (dry) which vets had him on for nearly 10 years [the culprit] then W/D , he was not improving. That's when I found this forum and did a great deal of research. I could never get Elvis to eat canned or wet food and this time was no different and I was faced with a dilemma. I was at my wit's end until I found Young Again, and determined that Elvis had other issues too like gum and teeth infections and white coat syndrome, which were driving his #s up as well. (I still believe Elvis' diagnosis was premature and transient, but that 'a another story.)

A month after doing it the vet's way and seeing no improvement and a very lethargic and unhappy cat, I decided to take things into my own hands. First I demanded that I was going to take my own readings at home instead of putting him through trips to the vet which immediately freaked him and caused both of us unbelievable stress. Then I took him off Science Diet and tried many of the suggestions offered on this list, mostly canned because of the adverse feelings about strictly dry which I understood, but Elvis just wouldn't eat them. Then I changed vets and insisted they check his mouth (which the first vet did not do), and that's when they saw the mouth problems and gave him and antibiotic. The #s came down a bit, but still were considered too high.

When I heard about Young Again I gave them a call and I have never had such wonderful experiences with a vendor of any kind. They were knowledgeable, patient, showed genuine concern, and would stay on the phone with me to answer all my questions for as long as I needed every time I called, so I decided to give their Zero Carb food a try. Less than one week from the moment I started Elvis on their food, I weened him off the insulin shots and his #s began to drop. He has not received or needed another shot since, and has maintained readings ranging from 51-88 (on a human meter) for what will be one solid year next week.

More importantly, I have a cat who LITERALLY got "Young Again." For months before and up to and through his diagnosis and vet's treatment, he would not play anymore, jump on window sills, talk (he was always a chatter box), didn't want to interact with me any longer, stopped grooming, was constantly sleeping all day on the floor and not his favorite higher spots, and had a very old and unhappy look to him. Well, he's young again.....playing, jumping up on high levels, clear eyed, talking up a storm, and just like he was years ago. He drinks plenty of water (as the people at Young Again said he would because this food induces that), and he has the healthiest BMs and urinations I have ever seen, and like clockwork. He's been off their Zero Carb and on their Mature blend for about 6 months now, and still doing absolutely great. He is ape over their treats too. The 5 Ps are back!-- Purring......Playing.....Preening.....Peeing....and Pooping! What I also find remarkable and a plus.....their food runs about $49/8 lb. bag BUT, it lasts for 3 MONTHS!!!!!! I use to pay $38/8 lb. bag with Hill's Science Diet, but it only lasted a little over a month.....so don't let the food's price fool you, it's a bargain.

I strongly recommend to anyone who is leery about giving your cat dry food to at least give these people a call and talk to them about your concerns. I spoke with Jennifer there and she has steered me in the right direction every time.

Good luck to all!!!!
 
Robin-S said:
I'm surprised that more people don't feed their cats the Young Again zero carb food. Looking at the ingredient list it seems like a good choice for sugar cats, I must be missing something.
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I completely agree.....read my post in this thread.
 
monty_dweezil said:
I want to buy this Young Again zero carb also for Dweezil (and Monty) for just a bit of variety, and to replace their current vet recommended Royal Canin Diabetic formula, but every time for the past week that I go to the Young Again website, it tells me the purchasing part is "down for maintenance".

Is it?? Can you still order online? I really want to buy it! The site says to call but I'm in Australia and the time difference is very awkward. Also I prefer to pay online and not over the phone.
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They also have a Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/youngagainpetfood?fref=nf
 
This is Elvis waiting for his Young Again Yummy treats.....

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I have recently switched to young again and it's working great. Numbers going down he's happy and healthy. Just wish it didn't break the bank to buy it!!
 
You're very lucky you can get your cats to eat YA zero carb.

I don't know how much mine is choosing to eat (not very much) and I'm terrified of getting him into hepatic lipidosis thereby killing him.
 
Well they say that they don't need to eat as much of it as the high carb food, so maybe that's what you're witnessing?
 
mirnta said:
Well they say that they don't need to eat as much of it as the high carb food, so maybe that's what you're witnessing?
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I hope you're right. Sluggo has had an ongoing insulin requirement, though less, since those abscessed teeth came and went. I'd had him on 1/2 unit AM & PM with blood glucoses in the 140-180 range. Yesterday morning, after feeding him a bit more of his canned blue wilderness, I witnessed a moonshot into the mid-200s so covered him with 2 units. I decided to take away his canned food & just leave him to his devices with the young again zero carb. I see him avidly visiting the bowl and at least putting the stuff in his mouth, but don't hear him crunching it with his few remaining teeth. Hopefully he's eating it whole. His blood glucoses since then have been: 119, 104, 90 (no coverage since the 2u dose). So either he's starving or YA zero carb has gotten him off the juice. I guess I'll be watching for yellow eyes.... Coming up on 24 hrs since last insulin and if that one's normal, I think I'll put away the glucometer and give his poor ears a break!

Either he's off the juice or he's starving and about to get very sick. Who knows. Cats are funny animals. In a multi-cat household, how can you figure out whose stool is in the box or who is making the food disappear... I've read cats often eat kibble whole, and as fine grained as YA is, that's certainly possible.
 
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Well, this morning, 27 hours after last ProZinc insulin dose and after switch from the moist canned stuff (blue wilderness chicken pate --- allegedly 95% chicken, very low carb --- calculated 7% dry matter carbs on the Scheyder calculator) to a diet of YA zero carb ONLY, Sluggo's blood glucose is (drumroll please): 128. I can't see shooting that, and clearly there is no action from a ProZinc Insulin dose given 27 hours ago, so I'm giving him a break from the glucometer for at least a week. I'll do a spot check in a week, or if I notice the litter box filling up really quickly. He is notably drinking more water than before, but that's not surprising.

I would call this one a victory for young again zero carb versus an allegedly high quality wet canned preparation in a diabetic. And, importantly, Mr. Slugo is now OTJ!

For Mr. Sluggo, I'd say wet canned food (allegedly a very good one) has been a disaster. Perhaps not as big a disaster as Orijen, which is, in turn, better than your garden variety over-the-counter kibble, but markedly suboptimal, at the very least.
 
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See my signature link Secondary Monitoring Tools for a number of assessments besides blood testing which may help you evaluate him.
 
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