10/15 PurrFace PMPS 395 +8/340

He hadn't eaten since PM+8, I'll get another BG test at AM+2. He would not have eaten for 6 hours prior to that BG#. Hopefully it will be a bit lower. I'll feed him after that test and take another test +5.
PurrFace's Condo

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Hi guys .. well, it's not that high of a pink right? It's a good idea to keep kitties from eating within two hours of the PS numbers, and if others have told you otherwise I'd listen to them, but sometimes it helps for a diabetic cat to have small frequent meals throughout the day/night rather then a few large ones once or twice a day .. but again, if you were told otherwise, I'd stick with that advice .. just throwing in my .2! Have a great day!

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Peter, thank you for your suggestions. Your input is always welcome. So far, as I mentioned earlier, he hasn't eaten for 6 hours. I was going to get a +2 BG reading but he's starting to really stare me down. It's just 1 more hour so I'm sure he'll make it. I'm not sure if he eats because he is hungry. The other day about an hour after he ate 2oz of FF he was sound asleep on our screened porch my DW moved their feeding dishes a few inches and it made a bit of noise. The next thing we knew he was sitting where he gets feed begging to eat. We told him no and after a few minutes he went back to the porch and back to sleep. It's been a lot easier since we have our other 2 civie cats on FF Classic Can food as well. That was a hard transistion from the dry food they loved but we made it.....so far anyway. I will try feeding him a little bit more frequently. We have a Russian Blue and she looks a lot like Mocha.

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Hooray!!! PurrFace hit a BLUE BG# at +2. Sienna & Marje it looks like you were right that he reacts slowly to changes in his dose. It took him 12 cycles to get to the GREEN after the increase from 1.0U to 1.25U. Let's hope he surfs here. We were so happy with the number that he picked up on it and started purring and looking like "I don't know what I just did but it must of been great."

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That's great he's throwing out some blues! Kinda funny on making some noise with the food bowls and out he came .. mocha trots into the kitchen anytime I'm in there .. she just assumes it's feeding time :roll: It's hard to say no to her big blue eyes!

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Testing again in 15 minutes at the +4. Fingers crossed for another good number. Since he hadn't eaten quite a while, he got fed 1oz of FF Classic can food at the +2. Hopefully it won't boost his # that much.

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Nice blue for PurrFace! It does take some time (and patience) to see the effects of a dose change then more patience to let it really settle in before another dosecrease. I hope PurrFace decides to play the blues for a while for you. Good job getting all your cats eating the same food too, that greatly simplifies things. Enjoy your day!

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Nice blue! This is a fast drop, so testing again would be a good idea.

FYI, I don't think they were suggesting that you withhold food for three hours before every test. You want to try not to less than two hours before preshot, and some cats do better if they don't receive any food after nadir. You still want to feed the same amount of food per day, just try to get it all in before nadir. I think Marje and Sienne were just suggesting that you rearrange your normal feeding schedule. Lack of food could be contributing to today's fast drop.

It's ok if the food boosts the numbers. The purpose of the curve is to find out what the effects of food and insulin are, so the best practice is to do a curve during a "normal" cycle.

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Thanks Leslie & Libby. I'm off to the test site now. We normally don't let him go so long with eating it's just that this time he ate a larger breakfast and didn't pester as much as he usually does. He ate 1oz immediately after his +2 test. Back shortly to post his +4 BG#.

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Hi John, I replied to your PM, it says sent but appears to be still in my outbox, hmm... :? . I paste it here too just in case

Happy to help if I can. I am no expert, still fairly new at this, however I have spent a LOT of time looking at a lot of spreadsheets here, and I am a (recovering) test fiend. The nadir is the lowest bg in the cycle and you may or may not happen to test at that time. The actual nadir can vary from day to day and will be affected by your feeding schedule too. For practical purposes, the nadir is the lowest observed number in the cycle that you get, at the times you happen to test. Many cats get nadirs around midcycle but I have seen just as many who were early or late cycle nadirs.
Looking at PurrFace's sheet Lantus data, I see observed nadirs varying from +2 to +11, quick rough tally shows more often in the early part of the cycle. You are getting the flatter Lantus curves, so the nadir will fall across a range of times. However it still looks to me like AM nadirs you have measured are most often in the +3 to +5 interval. Your PM data is skewed to when you have tests. You may want to do a week of getting more tests to get a more complete picture. You may want to take a look at Jasper's spreadsheet to see if you could pick out his nadir patterns. We free feed so no food spikes around PS. I am an engineer :smile: so I also put a time graph in Jasper's profile if that is of interest.

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Thanks Leslie, I received it. The info was helpful.

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Hi John,
Looks like PurrFace is improving.
Hope he keeps it up.

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Thanks Rhiannon. PMPS due in 90 minutes.