8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62, +6 54, PMPS 63, +2 77
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Emily & Mr. Howell
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Re: 8/11 Mr Howell PMPS 62
PMPS 62, shot .75u. I threw the rest of his (perfectly fine) food away and put out the chicken&giblets. He is so stupid -- I know he is just picky about his food and it's becoming a pain in my butt. Then he attacks the Chicken&Giblets like he hasn't seen food in years. and he only does this during the evening!! His morning cycles I haven't been really bothered by, they are fine, but at night he is just all over the place. Doesn't eat (even though it is the same kind of food as morning, which he ate!), BG drops way dramatically, etc. Then he waits for different food instead of finishing off the first stuff.
PMPS 62, shot .75u. I threw the rest of his (perfectly fine) food away and put out the chicken&giblets. He is so stupid -- I know he is just picky about his food and it's becoming a pain in my butt. Then he attacks the Chicken&Giblets like he hasn't seen food in years. and he only does this during the evening!! His morning cycles I haven't been really bothered by, they are fine, but at night he is just all over the place. Doesn't eat (even though it is the same kind of food as morning, which he ate!), BG drops way dramatically, etc. Then he waits for different food instead of finishing off the first stuff.
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
It looks like Mr. Howell is coming down the dose ladder pretty quickly. I want to encourage you to stay on top of his numbers. (You're doing a good job of this already but it looks like that 27 last night was a surprise.) It's important to test every 20 - 30 min. if you get a low number like that again. It will let you know how well the HC has kicked in since you don't want your cat sitting in very low numbers for very long.
It looks like Mr. Howell is coming down the dose ladder pretty quickly. I want to encourage you to stay on top of his numbers. (You're doing a good job of this already but it looks like that 27 last night was a surprise.) It's important to test every 20 - 30 min. if you get a low number like that again. It will let you know how well the HC has kicked in since you don't want your cat sitting in very low numbers for very long.
We see a fair number of newly diagnosed cats who go into remission once they are on a LC canned diet. We see far fewer who go back into remission due to diet because most of the cats who are out of remission have already been on canned food -- they are often members who are back again and have already made those changes.Emily & Mr. Howell said:
julie & punkin (ga)
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
oh wow, you had quite the night. perhaps mr howell is giving you the gift of trying to get off of insulin as quickly as possible before you start your new job. if you can look at it that way maybe you'll want to kill him less. :lol:
just an fyi - once diabetic, always treat as a diabetic diet-wise. so if he goes off of insulin, you continue with the low carb canned food only. don't let him get back to dry food. i didn't know that with punkin and he was on insulin for one month, then off, and i went back to dry food with him, not knowing better.
oh wow, you had quite the night. perhaps mr howell is giving you the gift of trying to get off of insulin as quickly as possible before you start your new job. if you can look at it that way maybe you'll want to kill him less. :lol:
just an fyi - once diabetic, always treat as a diabetic diet-wise. so if he goes off of insulin, you continue with the low carb canned food only. don't let him get back to dry food. i didn't know that with punkin and he was on insulin for one month, then off, and i went back to dry food with him, not knowing better.
PeterDevonMocha
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
Hi guys .. I'm sorry you are feeling so frustrated over mr howells eating habits .. The numbers sure are looking nice though, well except for those really low ones .. have a great day guys!
Hi guys .. I'm sorry you are feeling so frustrated over mr howells eating habits .. The numbers sure are looking nice though, well except for those really low ones .. have a great day guys!
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
+1 56. I am just exhausted! I want my sleep back. :sad: It is really hard to hate him when he was giving me those hungry eyes. He is too cute to stay mad at, which is sooo lucky for him. And I was definitely planning to keep him on the wet food diet -- it is so much cheaper than the dry food anyway!
Thank you!
+1 56. I am just exhausted! I want my sleep back. :sad: It is really hard to hate him when he was giving me those hungry eyes. He is too cute to stay mad at, which is sooo lucky for him. And I was definitely planning to keep him on the wet food diet -- it is so much cheaper than the dry food anyway!
Thank you!
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
Sienne, sorry I missed your post when I was replying. Thanks for clarifying. He has always been on dry food, which is why I was so surprised he went OTJ the first time. I am definitely planning on keeping him with the wet food because he seems to want to be off the insulin! I'm trying to stay on top of testing, but it's getting harder the more sleep I lose.
Sienne, sorry I missed your post when I was replying. Thanks for clarifying. He has always been on dry food, which is why I was so surprised he went OTJ the first time. I am definitely planning on keeping him with the wet food because he seems to want to be off the insulin! I'm trying to stay on top of testing, but it's getting harder the more sleep I lose.
Julia & Bandit (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
It's not uncommon for some cats to go immediately into remission when the dry food is removed. I know it's hard now with all the testing, but this is a good thing!
You said that he gobbled the beef FF up--maybe he just doesn't like poultry flavors too much? Many cats can also develop an aversion to liver (which I've noticed is associated more with the poultry flavors, perhaps because it doesn't mask the taste as much). Bandit is a kitty hoover when it comes to food, but he'll turn his nose up at the FF Chicken A LOT. There's something about that flavor he just doesn't like.
FF is better on the liver content than Friskies or 9 Lives, but it still has a lot of liver in it. I would maybe try some non-poultry foods with less liver--Beef & Chicken FF has very little liver, or EVO 95% Beef or Venison (it's as cheap as FF if you get it in the big 13oz cans, but you could pick up the small cans just to try it out). Merricks Cowboy Cookout & Surf and Turf are also beef based with no liver, and I've had very good success with them.
My Gabby went through a period of extreme pickiness due to illness, so I feel like I became an expert in encouraging my cats to eat and tried about a gazillion foods and even kept a journal where I noted their reactions and the ingredients (yes, THAT is how many foods we went through with her). I can't tell you how many of my friends complain that their cats are getting picky with their food, and when I suggest they change to a food with little or no liver, the cat gobbles it up.
It's not uncommon for some cats to go immediately into remission when the dry food is removed. I know it's hard now with all the testing, but this is a good thing!
You said that he gobbled the beef FF up--maybe he just doesn't like poultry flavors too much? Many cats can also develop an aversion to liver (which I've noticed is associated more with the poultry flavors, perhaps because it doesn't mask the taste as much). Bandit is a kitty hoover when it comes to food, but he'll turn his nose up at the FF Chicken A LOT. There's something about that flavor he just doesn't like.
FF is better on the liver content than Friskies or 9 Lives, but it still has a lot of liver in it. I would maybe try some non-poultry foods with less liver--Beef & Chicken FF has very little liver, or EVO 95% Beef or Venison (it's as cheap as FF if you get it in the big 13oz cans, but you could pick up the small cans just to try it out). Merricks Cowboy Cookout & Surf and Turf are also beef based with no liver, and I've had very good success with them.
My Gabby went through a period of extreme pickiness due to illness, so I feel like I became an expert in encouraging my cats to eat and tried about a gazillion foods and even kept a journal where I noted their reactions and the ingredients (yes, THAT is how many foods we went through with her). I can't tell you how many of my friends complain that their cats are getting picky with their food, and when I suggest they change to a food with little or no liver, the cat gobbles it up.
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
Julia -- he is only picky about the food some of the time. I know he doesn't like Turkey&Giblets, fine. I put it next to the 1/2can HC Chicken&Gravy FF, which he only licked the gravy off of. Next to that I had 1/4can Beef, which I KNOW he likes. I had to toss all of that this morning because he didn't touch any of it (except the gravy) -- even though he had eaten the other 3/4can Beef earlier that day. So I put out the Chicken&Liver, 3/4can at AMPS and 1/4can at +1, and it's all gone! I just don't know what he wants -- he will eat the beef, then he won't. He will eat stuff mixed with Turkey&Giblets one day, the next he refuses to eat any of it if it's the same dish together. He also will not eat any food that falls out of his dish onto the floor, and don't know what he does while he's eating but half of the food usually does. So I put it back in and he'll eat it. ohmygod_smile
Julia -- he is only picky about the food some of the time. I know he doesn't like Turkey&Giblets, fine. I put it next to the 1/2can HC Chicken&Gravy FF, which he only licked the gravy off of. Next to that I had 1/4can Beef, which I KNOW he likes. I had to toss all of that this morning because he didn't touch any of it (except the gravy) -- even though he had eaten the other 3/4can Beef earlier that day. So I put out the Chicken&Liver, 3/4can at AMPS and 1/4can at +1, and it's all gone! I just don't know what he wants -- he will eat the beef, then he won't. He will eat stuff mixed with Turkey&Giblets one day, the next he refuses to eat any of it if it's the same dish together. He also will not eat any food that falls out of his dish onto the floor, and don't know what he does while he's eating but half of the food usually does. So I put it back in and he'll eat it. ohmygod_smile
Patty & Champ
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
Mr. Howell sure is keeping you busy!!! I completely understand on the lack of sleep. Fortunately for you, Mr. Howell seems to be heading down the ladder fast so, while you may be getting little sleep now, the times of being able to sleep in on a Saturday or Sunday morning because you don't have to get up to test feed shoot may be just around the corner for you!!!!
Thanks for visiting Champ's condo yesterday and lending your support!!! I really do appreciate it. It's very hard, as I'm sure you know, when you can't get your kitty to eat. I tend to worry a lot when he's sick because I can't bear the thought of losing him so I usually get overly emotional when something happens to him!!
I love the info that Julia wrote. I'm going to try some of those liver-free flavors and see if Champ will like them more!!
Mr. Howell sure is keeping you busy!!! I completely understand on the lack of sleep. Fortunately for you, Mr. Howell seems to be heading down the ladder fast so, while you may be getting little sleep now, the times of being able to sleep in on a Saturday or Sunday morning because you don't have to get up to test feed shoot may be just around the corner for you!!!!
Thanks for visiting Champ's condo yesterday and lending your support!!! I really do appreciate it. It's very hard, as I'm sure you know, when you can't get your kitty to eat. I tend to worry a lot when he's sick because I can't bear the thought of losing him so I usually get overly emotional when something happens to him!!
I love the info that Julia wrote. I'm going to try some of those liver-free flavors and see if Champ will like them more!!
Julia & Bandit (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
I would suggest eliminating foods he's being picky with, and not try to mix them with ones he likes. Because even if he eats the mix one day, if he starts associating the flavor he likes with the flavor he doesn't, he might then turn up his nose at the one he likes alone (I went through this with Gabby--it was like cat food alchemy).
Does he eat all the food at once, generally, or does he try to graze? If he's gobbling a small amount and leaving the rest, you could try splitting the feedings up into amount you know he'll eat.
If he goes to his food, turns his nose up and then meows at you to feed him because he's hungry, then you may be in for some more experimenting with foods. I would often use tuna, or chicken or salmon powder from the freeze dried treats to sweeten the food up a little bit. He's still recently transitioning, so it may be he's just not used to the texture of the food yet.
You mentioned that you were feeding the FF Beef w/gravy--the high carb stuff, right? FF has Beef & Chicken and Tender Beef that are both the low carb pates, so maybe you can try those? You won't need to feed the high carb anymore as soon as the dose is lowered enough, so I wouldn't try to get him liking those foods. The gravy is the HC part of the food anyway, so that's all that matters when you're trying to boost BG.
I would suggest eliminating foods he's being picky with, and not try to mix them with ones he likes. Because even if he eats the mix one day, if he starts associating the flavor he likes with the flavor he doesn't, he might then turn up his nose at the one he likes alone (I went through this with Gabby--it was like cat food alchemy).
Does he eat all the food at once, generally, or does he try to graze? If he's gobbling a small amount and leaving the rest, you could try splitting the feedings up into amount you know he'll eat.
If he goes to his food, turns his nose up and then meows at you to feed him because he's hungry, then you may be in for some more experimenting with foods. I would often use tuna, or chicken or salmon powder from the freeze dried treats to sweeten the food up a little bit. He's still recently transitioning, so it may be he's just not used to the texture of the food yet.
You mentioned that you were feeding the FF Beef w/gravy--the high carb stuff, right? FF has Beef & Chicken and Tender Beef that are both the low carb pates, so maybe you can try those? You won't need to feed the high carb anymore as soon as the dose is lowered enough, so I wouldn't try to get him liking those foods. The gravy is the HC part of the food anyway, so that's all that matters when you're trying to boost BG.
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62
:lol: :lol: "Cat food alchemy" -- so true!
Thanks for the advice. I hadn't considered that he might not like the foods if they were mixed, but it is a very good point. I had bought the 24 pack of Chicken-Beef-T&G, which maybe was a bad idea since I didn't know if he liked all of them, but it was on sale. :roll:
He use to be a grazer on the dry food, but not so much with the wet. I've been lessening the amount I put out at one time, because he won't eat it if it's been sitting out (SO PICKY) unless I literally pretend to get it fresh from the fridge -- this has WORKED, amazingly. If he won't eat it I pretend to open a new can (pick one off the top of the trash), swirl a fork in the empty can, pretend I'm putting it in the dish, and there it is! :lol: :lol: And then I can get him to eat it.
Also good point on the gravy being the HC part -- makes sense, but I didn't think about it. I got a little frustrated throwing away the leftovers, feeling like I had wasted it, but not so. Good to know there is someone out there who has a cat that is just as picky (if not more so) than Mr. Howell! Gives me hope.
:lol: :lol: "Cat food alchemy" -- so true!
Thanks for the advice. I hadn't considered that he might not like the foods if they were mixed, but it is a very good point. I had bought the 24 pack of Chicken-Beef-T&G, which maybe was a bad idea since I didn't know if he liked all of them, but it was on sale. :roll:
He use to be a grazer on the dry food, but not so much with the wet. I've been lessening the amount I put out at one time, because he won't eat it if it's been sitting out (SO PICKY) unless I literally pretend to get it fresh from the fridge -- this has WORKED, amazingly. If he won't eat it I pretend to open a new can (pick one off the top of the trash), swirl a fork in the empty can, pretend I'm putting it in the dish, and there it is! :lol: :lol: And then I can get him to eat it.
Also good point on the gravy being the HC part -- makes sense, but I didn't think about it. I got a little frustrated throwing away the leftovers, feeling like I had wasted it, but not so. Good to know there is someone out there who has a cat that is just as picky (if not more so) than Mr. Howell! Gives me hope.
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62, +3 58
+3 58. He finished his can of Chicken&Liver this morning already, so I put out another 1/4can Chicken, which he seemed excited for. Good to see he's eating again, and I'll be sure to not mix His Royal Highness' foods anymore. :roll:
+3 58. He finished his can of Chicken&Liver this morning already, so I put out another 1/4can Chicken, which he seemed excited for. Good to see he's eating again, and I'll be sure to not mix His Royal Highness' foods anymore. :roll:
Julia & Bandit (GA)
Member Since 2009
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62, +3 58
One thing I had to do for Gabby was heat her food up for a few seconds in the microwave if it was in the fridge. Queen Gabby did not like to eat cold food.
One thing I had to do for Gabby was heat her food up for a few seconds in the microwave if it was in the fridge. Queen Gabby did not like to eat cold food.
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62, +3 58, +5 65, +9 77
+ 9 77 -- putting on the 'patience pants' but holy geez I am so happy to see his cycle today. It's just been beautiful. He ate wonderfully today as well - 1can Chicken&Liver, 1/4can Beef FF and 1/4can Chicken FF. So hard to stay mad at him.
+ 9 77 -- putting on the 'patience pants' but holy geez I am so happy to see his cycle today. It's just been beautiful. He ate wonderfully today as well - 1can Chicken&Liver, 1/4can Beef FF and 1/4can Chicken FF. So hard to stay mad at him.
Ella & Rusty & Stu(GA)
Member Since 2010
Re: 8/11 Mr Howell AMPS 62, +3 58, +5 65, +9 77
Good to see that Sir Howell is coming around!! I always put a little hot water in Rusty's food to warm it up, bring up the flavor, and to add some liquid. Really nice numbers for Mr. Howell. He's doing great, even if you're not getting enough sleep!
Ella & Rusty
Good to see that Sir Howell is coming around!! I always put a little hot water in Rusty's food to warm it up, bring up the flavor, and to add some liquid. Really nice numbers for Mr. Howell. He's doing great, even if you're not getting enough sleep!
Ella & Rusty
Emily & Mr. Howell
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PMPS 63, +2 77. Mr. Howell has had quite the lovely numbers today! I really don't want to jinx it, but maybe I'll actually be able to sleep tonight.
I have been adding some warm water to his food, I will try nuking it for a few seconds as well to see if it helps. He ate so well this morning, and has left probably 1/2 of his food tonight. Is it possible he just doesn't want to eat at night? If I can't get him to be a nocturnal eater, how is that going to affect his curve? Will I ever get to sleep again? :sad:
He has taken to hanging out on the couch armrest pretty much 24/7, which is nice. He use to hang out in the kitchen sometimes when we were home, but now when we're here he won't leave us. I take that as a good sign he is feeling a lot better. We have had an interesting morning routine these past two weeks -- morning testing and fuds, then he jumps in my lap for a 20min petting session, then he likes to jump down and play with the peacock feather toy, and then he naps until +3 when he gets more food and we do it all again. :lol: Aahh I'm going to miss spending so much time with him when I have to go back to work.
I have been adding some warm water to his food, I will try nuking it for a few seconds as well to see if it helps. He ate so well this morning, and has left probably 1/2 of his food tonight. Is it possible he just doesn't want to eat at night? If I can't get him to be a nocturnal eater, how is that going to affect his curve? Will I ever get to sleep again? :sad:
He has taken to hanging out on the couch armrest pretty much 24/7, which is nice. He use to hang out in the kitchen sometimes when we were home, but now when we're here he won't leave us. I take that as a good sign he is feeling a lot better. We have had an interesting morning routine these past two weeks -- morning testing and fuds, then he jumps in my lap for a 20min petting session, then he likes to jump down and play with the peacock feather toy, and then he naps until +3 when he gets more food and we do it all again. :lol: Aahh I'm going to miss spending so much time with him when I have to go back to work.
Emily & Mr. Howell
Member Since 2011
+3.5 93. Whew I haven't seen a number that high this early in the cycle for a few days -- I am going to SLEEP.
TTYL, LL!
TTYL, LL!
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